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And other cars don't support Netflix, YouTube, Hulu, Twitch, and arcade games while in Park, which are great when waiting for something, as well as Spotify, Tun

by natch 4y ago

And other cars don't support Netflix, YouTube, Hulu, Twitch, and arcade games while in Park, which are great when waiting for something, as well as Spotify, TuneIn, etc., so I guess we're even? I'd rather have a bunch of competing services rather than just a generic UI from one vendor that's always pushing service upgrade packages like Apple One. I suspect CarPlay and Android Auto come with strings attached from Apple (must fall in line with the Apple walled garden rules) and Google (must track users on behalf of Google) so, no big loss.

cmrdporcupine 4y ago
Nonsense. Android Auto (and likely CarPlay as well) is just a video player. They just take H.265 frames and feed it to the head unit, and feed user feedback back to the phone. Audio stack is I believe somehow piggybacked off Bluetooth, but I could be wrong. As far as I know no software from Google runs on the head unit itself.
- garaetjjte 4y ago
  Google provides C++ receiver library. Bluetooth is only used for voice calls. Some scraps of documentation are there: https://milek7.pl/.stuff/galdocs/huig13_cache.html https://milek7.pl/.stuff/galdocs/huig13_cache.html
rootusrootus 4y ago
LOL. I couldn't get Spotify to work correctly on my Tesla, so there is no plus there. I have Netflix, Youtube, Hulu, etc, on my phone. Arcade games are cute for the kids, but hard on the tires and right along with fart noises pretty useless and not interesting after the first day or so. Apple always pushes service upgrades? I can't remember the last time it pushed any advertising like that at me. If it does happen, it's an offer as part of a major OS upgrade that includes the new feature. > I suspect CarPlay and Android Auto come with strings attached from Apple Doubtful. Adoption by manufacturers is what Apple and Google want, so you'll stay in their respective ecosystems. They're not doing any more walled garden or tracking than they do when you use your phone normally, so I don't see the problem. Tesla tracks you with their system, too, but as a corporation they have a much sketchier history with their customer relationship. There's no way 99% of cars would come with support for CarPlay and AA if there were strings attached.

by natch 4y ago

cmrdporcupine 4y ago

Nonsense. Android Auto (and likely CarPlay as well) is just a video player. They just take H.265 frames and feed it to the head unit, and feed user feedback back to the phone. Audio stack is I believe somehow piggybacked off Bluetooth, but I could be wrong. As far as I know no software from Google runs on the head unit itself.

garaetjjte 4y ago
Google provides C++ receiver library. Bluetooth is only used for voice calls. Some scraps of documentation are there: https://milek7.pl/.stuff/galdocs/huig13_cache.html https://milek7.pl/.stuff/galdocs/huig13_cache.html

rootusrootus 4y ago

LOL. I couldn't get Spotify to work correctly on my Tesla, so there is no plus there. I have Netflix, Youtube, Hulu, etc, on my phone. Arcade games are cute for the kids, but hard on the tires and right along with fart noises pretty useless and not interesting after the first day or so. Apple always pushes service upgrades? I can't remember the last time it pushed any advertising like that at me. If it does happen, it's an offer as part of a major OS upgrade that includes the new feature. > I suspect CarPlay and Android Auto come with strings attached from Apple Doubtful. Adoption by manufacturers is what Apple and Google want, so you'll stay in their respective ecosystems. They're not doing any more walled garden or tracking than they do when you use your phone normally, so I don't see the problem. Tesla tracks you with their system, too, but as a corporation they have a much sketchier history with their customer relationship. There's no way 99% of cars would come with support for CarPlay and AA if there were strings attached.