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Well that's you, somebody else might want to use the subscription music service they pay for and use car controls to change the tracks, someone else might want

Well that's you, somebody else might want to use the subscription music service they pay for and use car controls to change the tracks, someone else might want a map that displays in the center console as opposed to their phone, etc etc. With android there's the possibility of adding apps that people would want to the car itself. This would be something device manufacturers could be interested in for dash cams or other electronics that could benefit from richer control interfaces.

HWR_14 4y ago
And, if like more than half of Americans I decided I didn't want an Android phone, now I get coerced to use Android to listen to my subscription music service, etc.
- kernal 4y ago
  I suggest you research Android Automotive and what exactly it is, as it's not an "Android phone". As for half of Americans not wanting to use Android, because it's Android, I find that statement amusing as you would rather force their customers to continue using their maligned Ford Sync system then a superior solution with an actual ecosystem. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Automotive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Automotive
  - HWR_14 4y ago
    Yes, it's not an Android phone. It's an Android tablet hardwired into my vehicle's bus so it can hoover up data directly from the vehicle and has to be on when the vehicle is. It still runs Google Maps (and reports my location to Google) has the Google Play Store (so any apps would also feed data and money to Google) and still permanently runs the microphone's input through Google's algorithms 24/7 for the Google Voice Assistant. I don't see what meaningful way it differs. Is it even going to get updates for a longer period than Android phones? Maybe against security threats. Or it's just been 3 years, upgrade your car. I suppose it doesn't make phonecalls, that's a difference. And yes, what I want is a bluetooth speaker that has a radio. My point is I don't want an ecosystem for my car. Saying "Ford Sync system then a superior solution with an actual ecosystem" as an argument to upgrade gets everything backwards.
    - kernal 4y ago
      No, it's not an Android tablet, just like it's not an "Android phone" as you previously purported. I suggest you research Volvo's implementation of Android Automotive to get a better understanding of what it is rather than trying to equate it to an old version of Android you used on a phone or tablet.
      - HWR_14 4y ago
        How about you tell me where I am wrong or how they are different . Because I read your wikipedia link and it just seemed to reinforce that it's extremely Googley with Play Store, Voice Assistant and GPS built in to Fords and Volvos. And I found no meaningful differences I didn't already cover. Nor did I on Volvo's page[1] [1] https://developer.volvocars.com/android-automotive/ https://developer.volvocars.com/android-automotive/
        kernal 4y ago
        You must have missed the part where the UI/UX was entirely created by Volvo. The Hummer UI is especially futuristic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNTisbC9-8Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNTisbC9-8Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqjRO1d0iQM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqjRO1d0iQM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ravJtxu3N04 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ravJtxu3N04 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyfGRNe-FtU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyfGRNe-FtU https://carbuzz.com/news/google-will-transform-bmws-dashboards https://carbuzz.com/news/google-will-transform-bmws-dashboar...
        HWR_14 4y ago
        I'm not going to watch like an hour of youtube videos. I tried scrubbing and didn't see any great UI, although if you want to show me some screenshots I'll look. But it also doesn't matter. I wasn't saying "the UI/UX is bad". I was saying "I don't want any touchscreen UX in my car". I also said "they are uploading my position, speed, car data and microphone data inside the car to Google, as well as letting them control the App Store to my car and thus impose things on all the apps I would want." Although Google may in fact process the audio locally.

HWR_14 4y ago

And, if like more than half of Americans I decided I didn't want an Android phone, now I get coerced to use Android to listen to my subscription music service, etc.

kernal 4y ago
I suggest you research Android Automotive and what exactly it is, as it's not an "Android phone". As for half of Americans not wanting to use Android, because it's Android, I find that statement amusing as you would rather force their customers to continue using their maligned Ford Sync system then a superior solution with an actual ecosystem. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Automotive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Automotive
- HWR_14 4y ago
  Yes, it's not an Android phone. It's an Android tablet hardwired into my vehicle's bus so it can hoover up data directly from the vehicle and has to be on when the vehicle is. It still runs Google Maps (and reports my location to Google) has the Google Play Store (so any apps would also feed data and money to Google) and still permanently runs the microphone's input through Google's algorithms 24/7 for the Google Voice Assistant. I don't see what meaningful way it differs. Is it even going to get updates for a longer period than Android phones? Maybe against security threats. Or it's just been 3 years, upgrade your car. I suppose it doesn't make phonecalls, that's a difference. And yes, what I want is a bluetooth speaker that has a radio. My point is I don't want an ecosystem for my car. Saying "Ford Sync system then a superior solution with an actual ecosystem" as an argument to upgrade gets everything backwards.
  - kernal 4y ago
    No, it's not an Android tablet, just like it's not an "Android phone" as you previously purported. I suggest you research Volvo's implementation of Android Automotive to get a better understanding of what it is rather than trying to equate it to an old version of Android you used on a phone or tablet.
    - HWR_14 4y ago
      How about you tell me where I am wrong or how they are different . Because I read your wikipedia link and it just seemed to reinforce that it's extremely Googley with Play Store, Voice Assistant and GPS built in to Fords and Volvos. And I found no meaningful differences I didn't already cover. Nor did I on Volvo's page[1] [1] https://developer.volvocars.com/android-automotive/ https://developer.volvocars.com/android-automotive/
      - kernal 4y ago
        You must have missed the part where the UI/UX was entirely created by Volvo. The Hummer UI is especially futuristic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNTisbC9-8Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNTisbC9-8Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqjRO1d0iQM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqjRO1d0iQM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ravJtxu3N04 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ravJtxu3N04 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyfGRNe-FtU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyfGRNe-FtU https://carbuzz.com/news/google-will-transform-bmws-dashboards https://carbuzz.com/news/google-will-transform-bmws-dashboar...
        HWR_14 4y ago
        I'm not going to watch like an hour of youtube videos. I tried scrubbing and didn't see any great UI, although if you want to show me some screenshots I'll look. But it also doesn't matter. I wasn't saying "the UI/UX is bad". I was saying "I don't want any touchscreen UX in my car". I also said "they are uploading my position, speed, car data and microphone data inside the car to Google, as well as letting them control the App Store to my car and thus impose things on all the apps I would want." Although Google may in fact process the audio locally.