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Yes, and: as the space evolves, human artists will figure out what AI art is bad at doing and find new niches. And then software will "learn," and the arms rac

Yes, and: as the space evolves, human artists will figure out what AI art is bad at doing and find new niches. And then software will "learn," and the arms race will continue.

mysterydip 4y ago
Right now, I think the winning move for artists is feedback and iteration: "make his head tilt more to the left. make his tie a lighter shade of blue." etc kind of modifications that aren't easily parseable by an AI. That being said, I'm quite enjoying generating pixel art to stand in for my programmer art before I commission artists.
- astrange 4y ago
  I think that's something AI will actually be very good at - GLIDE and StyleGAN are better at editing than DALLE is at image generation. But that's a tool artists can use; you just won't have to do the highlights and shadows in your art if you don't want to. Newer art programs like CSP already have a lot of tools Photoshop didn't, even if it's just 3D models for poses.
- fleddr 4y ago
  You really need to have a closer look at this thing, because it can definitely do all of that, and much more. Earlier today I saw a video (sorry, lost the link) of an AI editing program (still a prototype). It generates layers of a scene in place, say sky, mountains, rivers, foreground, etc. each of which would be individually manipulated. Next the program seamlessly blends the layers. The host then continued to add objects/subjects and through "in-painting" made all of it blend into a single coherent scene. This kind of capability is close to being released. This year.
  - LanternLight83 4y ago
    Sounds to me like the Nvidia Canvas App https://youtu.be/mlZYRwJ2oJg https://youtu.be/mlZYRwJ2oJg
    - fleddr 4y ago
      Nope, it was a different one. You'd draw a shape (rectangle, circle) and the attach a prompt to it, after which AI generates it. Next, you can do advanced compositing.
- thrown_22 4y ago
  > Right now, I think the winning move for artists is feedback and iteration: "make his head tilt more to the left. make his tie a lighter shade of blue." etc kind of modifications that aren't easily parseable by an AI. This is literally how you do prompts to AI programs.
tartoran 4y ago
> And then software will "learn," and the arms race will continue. How will the software learn? By having their work feed into the algo. The creative space is massive and fashions and currents change. In order for the algo to catch up it would need a massive dataset and by the time this is satisfied the art would have moved on to something else.. This tool will still remain and will most likely be used by artists too, though just as a tool in the toolbox, not as a complete process. Fotography didn’t destroy painting, it changed it in unforseen ways.

Yes, and: as the space evolves, human artists will figure out what AI art is bad at doing and find new niches. And then software will "learn," and the arms race will continue.

mysterydip 4y ago

Right now, I think the winning move for artists is feedback and iteration: "make his head tilt more to the left. make his tie a lighter shade of blue." etc kind of modifications that aren't easily parseable by an AI. That being said, I'm quite enjoying generating pixel art to stand in for my programmer art before I commission artists.

astrange 4y ago
I think that's something AI will actually be very good at - GLIDE and StyleGAN are better at editing than DALLE is at image generation. But that's a tool artists can use; you just won't have to do the highlights and shadows in your art if you don't want to. Newer art programs like CSP already have a lot of tools Photoshop didn't, even if it's just 3D models for poses.
fleddr 4y ago
You really need to have a closer look at this thing, because it can definitely do all of that, and much more. Earlier today I saw a video (sorry, lost the link) of an AI editing program (still a prototype). It generates layers of a scene in place, say sky, mountains, rivers, foreground, etc. each of which would be individually manipulated. Next the program seamlessly blends the layers. The host then continued to add objects/subjects and through "in-painting" made all of it blend into a single coherent scene. This kind of capability is close to being released. This year.
- LanternLight83 4y ago
  Sounds to me like the Nvidia Canvas App https://youtu.be/mlZYRwJ2oJg https://youtu.be/mlZYRwJ2oJg
  - fleddr 4y ago
    Nope, it was a different one. You'd draw a shape (rectangle, circle) and the attach a prompt to it, after which AI generates it. Next, you can do advanced compositing.
thrown_22 4y ago
> Right now, I think the winning move for artists is feedback and iteration: "make his head tilt more to the left. make his tie a lighter shade of blue." etc kind of modifications that aren't easily parseable by an AI. This is literally how you do prompts to AI programs.

tartoran 4y ago

> And then software will "learn," and the arms race will continue. How will the software learn? By having their work feed into the algo. The creative space is massive and fashions and currents change. In order for the algo to catch up it would need a massive dataset and by the time this is satisfied the art would have moved on to something else.. This tool will still remain and will most likely be used by artists too, though just as a tool in the toolbox, not as a complete process. Fotography didn’t destroy painting, it changed it in unforseen ways.