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You should go on holiday in Vietnam and see how entire families ride on a single scooter, on the highway, in weather.

BuyMyBitcoins 4y ago
That sounds extremely dangerous. Sure it’s do-able and normalized for them, but I don’t want to expect that sort of thing where I live because it is now trendy to hate everything about cars.
- yakshaving_jgt 4y ago
  It is extremely dangerous. But there surely must be a middle ground between cultural norms in USA and Vietnam. People in developed economies shouldn't be carrying around sofas on the backs of mopeds as they do in Vietnam, but it should be reasonable enough to deliver a pizza on one where the weather allows in the USA. FWIW: I'm very much a car guy.
  - prvit 4y ago
    Indeed, nobody is carrying their family on a scooter in London, but at the same time pretty much nobody is delivering food with a car either.
CyberDildonics 4y ago
I've lived in Vietnam for multiple years and drove scooters around all the time. That doesn't have anything to do with the claim that "americans avoid two wheel vehicles for no reason". Also the honda scoopy and yamaha scooters are 115cc and can't get up to american highway speeds. In Thailand it isn't even legal to drive scooters or even motorcycles on their highways. Maybe you should go on holiday to Vietnam in the winter, you might realize there is no snow in Vietnam. Americans usually need a car anyway so they already have one.
- yakshaving_jgt 4y ago
  > That doesn't have anything to do with the claim that "americans avoid two wheel vehicles for no reason". It has everything to do with your refutation of that claim, however. My actual implicit claim is that there appears to be a degree of truth in the idea that US residents have a cultural aversion to two-wheeled transport that extends beyond the justifications you proffered to dismiss the claim.
  - CyberDildonics 4y ago
    appears to be a degree of truth in the idea that US residents have a cultural aversion to two-wheeled transport No there isn't. People have jobs to go to and there isn't much public transportation, it gets cold, snows and people need to use the highways. People need to have a car so they already have a car and that's why scooters are usually something people buy for fun and not neccesity.

That sounds extremely dangerous. Sure it’s do-able and normalized for them, but I don’t want to expect that sort of thing where I live because it is now trendy to hate everything about cars.

yakshaving_jgt 4y ago
It is extremely dangerous. But there surely must be a middle ground between cultural norms in USA and Vietnam. People in developed economies shouldn't be carrying around sofas on the backs of mopeds as they do in Vietnam, but it should be reasonable enough to deliver a pizza on one where the weather allows in the USA. FWIW: I'm very much a car guy.
- prvit 4y ago
  Indeed, nobody is carrying their family on a scooter in London, but at the same time pretty much nobody is delivering food with a car either.

CyberDildonics 4y ago

I've lived in Vietnam for multiple years and drove scooters around all the time. That doesn't have anything to do with the claim that "americans avoid two wheel vehicles for no reason". Also the honda scoopy and yamaha scooters are 115cc and can't get up to american highway speeds. In Thailand it isn't even legal to drive scooters or even motorcycles on their highways. Maybe you should go on holiday to Vietnam in the winter, you might realize there is no snow in Vietnam. Americans usually need a car anyway so they already have one.

yakshaving_jgt 4y ago
> That doesn't have anything to do with the claim that "americans avoid two wheel vehicles for no reason". It has everything to do with your refutation of that claim, however. My actual implicit claim is that there appears to be a degree of truth in the idea that US residents have a cultural aversion to two-wheeled transport that extends beyond the justifications you proffered to dismiss the claim.
- CyberDildonics 4y ago
  appears to be a degree of truth in the idea that US residents have a cultural aversion to two-wheeled transport No there isn't. People have jobs to go to and there isn't much public transportation, it gets cold, snows and people need to use the highways. People need to have a car so they already have a car and that's why scooters are usually something people buy for fun and not neccesity.