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I don't know if its just me but electric trucks/cars and the buying experience there is one giant pit of frustration. I want to buy a electric truck, was thinki

I don't know if its just me but electric trucks/cars and the buying experience there is one giant pit of frustration. I want to buy a electric truck, was thinking of a Rivian, but good luck getting one in the next 2-3 years. And if you do manage to get one watch out for your axel coming apart! [1], maybe I will get a lightning, looks like same leadtime issues, 2 years+ wait and they are totally changing the brain(from ford to android) so the ones now will be obsolete. Also from tesla to rivian all I hear are horror stories about the service, and tesla's build quality is nowhere near any of the traditional automakers(fit and finish). I just want to buy a reliable electric truck or suv that has a decent finish and don't want to wait 2-3 years, someone please take my money! [1] - https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/rivian-r1t-cv-axle-failure-missed-by-service-center.7404/page-4#post-189801 https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/rivian-r1t-cv-axl...

treesknees 4y ago
What you're asking for just doesn't exist yet. The marketing teams at these companies are clearly doing a great job selling these vehicles as reliable simple alternatives to ICE-powered, but that's just not the case. Ignoring all of the supply-chain issues from the pandemic lockdowns (shipping, chip shortages, labor shortages, etc.) you're still purchasing new technology that will take years to iron out the quality problems. I've friends who work in the automotive industry in various engineering roles and none of them are driving brand-new platforms because they know better. Just like the software world, manufacturers will take all of the maintenance data from dealerships and use it to improve the design and production. If you're OK with being the beta tester filing bug reports in this relationship, by all means, buy an electric truck.
- rnk 4y ago
  I'll agree with that. Yet I alsonever want to buy anything from an enforced middleman again. First I avoided that with Tesla, and now I did it with Rivian. It does have some bugs, so did my last car I bought 20 years ago form a major manufacturer.
  - croutonwagon 4y ago
    The enforced middle man gives you a place to hold accountable or to physically complain to. And provides local jobs. Not to mention the infrastructure to handle things like recalls. People complain about Tesla service but actively want MORE faceless corps not held accountable to sell them things. It makes no sense.
    - kcb 4y ago
      Hold accountable a local area businessman with political connections. What could possibly go wrong?
rnk 4y ago
There's one thing you can do to have a shot at getting a rivian quicker. Spec one out that matches the current launch edition (4 motors, don't get the ocean coast interior, get the tonneau cover) and you might just get one. People have gotten them in a couple of months, but they are lucky. Go to the reddit.com/r/rivian forum and read people's descriptions. What seems to happen is they have some ready for a location and someone at the last minute drops out and they can't find someone so they can go way down the list quickly.

treesknees 4y ago

What you're asking for just doesn't exist yet. The marketing teams at these companies are clearly doing a great job selling these vehicles as reliable simple alternatives to ICE-powered, but that's just not the case. Ignoring all of the supply-chain issues from the pandemic lockdowns (shipping, chip shortages, labor shortages, etc.) you're still purchasing new technology that will take years to iron out the quality problems. I've friends who work in the automotive industry in various engineering roles and none of them are driving brand-new platforms because they know better. Just like the software world, manufacturers will take all of the maintenance data from dealerships and use it to improve the design and production. If you're OK with being the beta tester filing bug reports in this relationship, by all means, buy an electric truck.

rnk 4y ago
I'll agree with that. Yet I alsonever want to buy anything from an enforced middleman again. First I avoided that with Tesla, and now I did it with Rivian. It does have some bugs, so did my last car I bought 20 years ago form a major manufacturer.
- croutonwagon 4y ago
  The enforced middle man gives you a place to hold accountable or to physically complain to. And provides local jobs. Not to mention the infrastructure to handle things like recalls. People complain about Tesla service but actively want MORE faceless corps not held accountable to sell them things. It makes no sense.
  - kcb 4y ago
    Hold accountable a local area businessman with political connections. What could possibly go wrong?

rnk 4y ago

There's one thing you can do to have a shot at getting a rivian quicker. Spec one out that matches the current launch edition (4 motors, don't get the ocean coast interior, get the tonneau cover) and you might just get one. People have gotten them in a couple of months, but they are lucky. Go to the reddit.com/r/rivian forum and read people's descriptions. What seems to happen is they have some ready for a location and someone at the last minute drops out and they can't find someone so they can go way down the list quickly.