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Android? So now our cars will stop working and/or will become hopelessly insecure when Google and Ford decide to stop updating them?

johnklos 4y ago
- pkulak 4y ago
  I'm firmly in the camp that it's not patriotic to stylize the American flag in any way... but I'd love it if you expanded on how this version is racist.
  - LeoPanthera 4y ago
    The "thin blue line" flag is used almost exclusively by the far-right, and more specifically by white supremacists. The flag on the Lightning isn't that flag, but it does resemble it.
    - pkulak 4y ago
      Oh interesting. Just looked it up, and the thin blue line flag is black and white. Don't think I've ever seen a black and white American flag before.
      - davidw 4y ago
        I'm not up on all the details, but those grayed out flags do seem to have some particular associations. Nothing wrong with a regular old flag IMO.
    - namecheapTA 4y ago
      And here I was thinking it was used by people that appreciate their local police force and understand the stresses they are under.
      - ajross 4y ago
        If that were true, it would have arisen spontaneously and not been rolled out as countermessaging to a protest movement about police violence. No, this is 100% a political symbol with partisan (though not strictly party-aligned) intent, not a celebration of law enforcement. I don't think it's helpful to call it "racist", but neither is it appropriate to pretend that this isn't at least in some sense a "Fuck BLM" symbol either.
        namecheapTA 4y ago
        It can be a response to people taking a handful of incidents and ignoring the millions of safe and courteous police interactions a year. So while it may have been a response to cries about police violence, it doesn't automatically become some white supremacist pro police violence symbol....
      - rootusrootus 4y ago
        Every time I've seen that flag, it's next to a Lets Go Brandon sticker or a Gadsden flag or similar. If I heard someone claim it was to show support for their local police department, I'd expect to see them smirking as they said that.
    - throwaway0a5e 4y ago
      The level of pro establishment sentiment that the thin blue line flag conveys precludes the person from being far anything.
      - LeoPanthera 4y ago
        That would be true if they were actually using it to indicate support for police. But they're not. You'll only find it next to MAGA and expletive-laden flags.
SiempreViernes 4y ago
Wait, there exists mass market cars with secure software?
- parineum 4y ago
  There isn't and that's because it didn't used to be a big deal. But now, everything has a modem in it. Cars are now part of the IoT with all the security that implies.
kernal 4y ago
I must have missed the 56+ Ford Sync monthly updates. Do you know where I can download them?
- johnklos 4y ago
  Oh! Are those updates for Ford Sync on Android? The Google Pixel 5a, which came out a year ago, will only get Android updates through August, 2024. That's THREE years, on a Google phone. They're basically telling you that they want you to landfill your phone so they can make more money. Android is a shitty ecosystem for anything long term.

johnklos 4y ago

pkulak 4y ago
I'm firmly in the camp that it's not patriotic to stylize the American flag in any way... but I'd love it if you expanded on how this version is racist.
- LeoPanthera 4y ago
  The "thin blue line" flag is used almost exclusively by the far-right, and more specifically by white supremacists. The flag on the Lightning isn't that flag, but it does resemble it.
  - pkulak 4y ago
    Oh interesting. Just looked it up, and the thin blue line flag is black and white. Don't think I've ever seen a black and white American flag before.
    - davidw 4y ago
      I'm not up on all the details, but those grayed out flags do seem to have some particular associations. Nothing wrong with a regular old flag IMO.
  - namecheapTA 4y ago
    And here I was thinking it was used by people that appreciate their local police force and understand the stresses they are under.
    - ajross 4y ago
      If that were true, it would have arisen spontaneously and not been rolled out as countermessaging to a protest movement about police violence. No, this is 100% a political symbol with partisan (though not strictly party-aligned) intent, not a celebration of law enforcement. I don't think it's helpful to call it "racist", but neither is it appropriate to pretend that this isn't at least in some sense a "Fuck BLM" symbol either.
      - namecheapTA 4y ago
        It can be a response to people taking a handful of incidents and ignoring the millions of safe and courteous police interactions a year. So while it may have been a response to cries about police violence, it doesn't automatically become some white supremacist pro police violence symbol....
    - rootusrootus 4y ago
      Every time I've seen that flag, it's next to a Lets Go Brandon sticker or a Gadsden flag or similar. If I heard someone claim it was to show support for their local police department, I'd expect to see them smirking as they said that.
  - throwaway0a5e 4y ago
    The level of pro establishment sentiment that the thin blue line flag conveys precludes the person from being far anything.
    - LeoPanthera 4y ago
      That would be true if they were actually using it to indicate support for police. But they're not. You'll only find it next to MAGA and expletive-laden flags.

SiempreViernes 4y ago

Wait, there exists mass market cars with secure software?

parineum 4y ago
There isn't and that's because it didn't used to be a big deal. But now, everything has a modem in it. Cars are now part of the IoT with all the security that implies.

kernal 4y ago

I must have missed the 56+ Ford Sync monthly updates. Do you know where I can download them?

johnklos 4y ago
Oh! Are those updates for Ford Sync on Android? The Google Pixel 5a, which came out a year ago, will only get Android updates through August, 2024. That's THREE years, on a Google phone. They're basically telling you that they want you to landfill your phone so they can make more money. Android is a shitty ecosystem for anything long term.