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>You can even build good infrastructure that way. Yeah, but Florida doesn't, really.
by cool_dude85 4y ago
>You can even build good infrastructure that way.
Yeah, but Florida doesn't, really.
- ch4s3 4y agoI don't live there, and don't really have a particular ax to grind here but it looks like Miami is building a lot of flood control infrastructure pretty quickly.
- kelnos 4y agoI wouldn't be surprised if they're leveraging federal funds for that, or at least for a big part of it.
- ch4s3 4y agoIt looks like a lot of those projects are split in funding between the state and federal government for initial build and the counties are issuing bonds to fund maintenance.
- yardie 4y agoI live here. Miami is not building a lot of flood control infrastructure. Just a few diesel water pumps in tonier parts of town to keep the king tides at bay. The lifted truck/SUV is almost a requirement in the long term. After watching a row of cards flood out on our main street, Biscayne, you want something that drives high and dry.
- ch4s3 4y agoIt seems like there's a bunch of coastline restoration and mangrove planting happening as well. Has that not started in earnest?
- yardie 4y agoMiami Beach is making a valiant attempt. That city has been working on massive climate change projects for some time. We’ll see if it pays off. Miami is a basket case. The city commission held a vote to remove mangroves from the park because they were blocking the view. LOL. Just massive political incompetence.
- ch4s3 4y agoA rising tide drowns all cooks
- cool_dude85 4y agoThe flood control infrastructure in Miami Beach is to keep the plates spinning a little while longer. Long term, it's underwater.
- ch4s3 4y agoI don't see why it couldn't be protected like Amsterdam which is ~6.5' below sea level. Miami for trade and finance purposes is the Amsterdam of the Caribbean and northern chunk of South America and Central America.
- cool_dude85 4y agoAmsterdam has the famous dykes, but Miami is built on limestone so sea walls do not work.
- ch4s3 4y agoYeah I didn't mean using the exact same approach. They'll probably have to do things like building artificial reefs, planting mangroves, raising buildings/roads, and maybe something like Tokyo's giant cisterns. In the end it may not work but it seems like it's worth trying for a few decades.
- mensetmanusman 4y agoRoads are nice in my experience
- goostavos 4y agoThe roads in Florida are freaking fantastic and pristine almost everywhere. I moved to Seattle ~5 years ago and I still can't get over the fact that the roads are pot holed pieces of crap in a constant state of disrepair. We can't even get white divider lines painted reliably in the downtown core. I don't know where all the tax money goes. However, the downside of those glorious Florida roads is that, well, you need them at all. Everything is sooooooo spread out and flat. I forget until I go back and visit just how far away everything is from everything else. Going to something "just up the road" is a 15-20 minute drive.
- jrs235 4y agoThe roads in Florida are nice because they don't go through the freeze thaw cycle in winter.
- pandaman 4y agoWhy they are not nice in California then?
- ch4s3 4y agoOne imagines there are differences in the abilities of various governments to deliver projects. I’ve read that most of California’s projects go to a handful of contractors with poor records.
- pandaman 4y agoSo could it be the reason roads are nice in Florida is not the lack of winter freeze but the ability of its government to govern?