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You don't need to go everywhere, really. Especially not halfway round the world for a vacation.

by kubb 4y ago

s1k3 4y ago
The number of reasons people want to move around the worl are almost innumerable. Just because you don’t value it doesn’t mean others can’t.
- kubb 4y ago
  The reason for op was getting to his vacation place faster, so I guess we were discussing 1 reason.
mensetmanusman 4y ago
This reasoning can be used to also say you don’t need to go anywhere outside of your living area. Without removing freedom of mobility, the only way we have to mitigate environmental costs is through price pressures which could be used to fund net neutral technologies.
- runarberg 4y ago
  The difference between not traveling and a 15 hour flight is huge (especially if you have a family those 15 hours away). But the difference between 15 hour flight and 8 hour flight is marginal in that context. And this is compounded by the fact that there are some regions which are geographically closer then Australia, but take significantly longer to travel to because they lack the infrastructure for fast and convenient travel. So honestly 15 hours is not that bad. Yes, strictly you don’t need to travel anywhere, but we should allow people to travel in the most economical way feasible. Supersonic jet travel is not that. If 15 hours in an economy class is too much for you, but you can afford a supersonic flight ticket, perhaps you should consider upgrading to a business class. Or if you don’t like that, consider braking the flight up in 2 or 3 parts sleeping at a nice hotel in between. This is a much more climate friendly option then a supersonic flight that only saves a few hours of your time.
- kubb 4y ago
  If you have everything you need in your living area then you don't need to go anywhere else, yeah. In most places you can get everything you need within a 200km radius of where you live, unless you have very particular needs. I'm glad you considered all possible ways to mitigate the environmental costs of flying. Seems like wasteful supersonic jets aren't one of them?
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jtwaleson 4y ago
I completely agree that right now, this is the right mindset. We need to reduce our footprints a lot until we are in better shape as a planet. However, I hope that one day we'll be able to travel as much as we want in a sustainable way. It is a great thing.
- kubb 4y ago
  Would be cool, sure.

You don't need to go everywhere, really. Especially not halfway round the world for a vacation.

by kubb 4y ago

You don't need to go everywhere, really. Especially not halfway round the world for a vacation.

s1k3 4y ago

The number of reasons people want to move around the worl are almost innumerable. Just because you don’t value it doesn’t mean others can’t.

kubb 4y ago
The reason for op was getting to his vacation place faster, so I guess we were discussing 1 reason.

mensetmanusman 4y ago

This reasoning can be used to also say you don’t need to go anywhere outside of your living area. Without removing freedom of mobility, the only way we have to mitigate environmental costs is through price pressures which could be used to fund net neutral technologies.

runarberg 4y ago
The difference between not traveling and a 15 hour flight is huge (especially if you have a family those 15 hours away). But the difference between 15 hour flight and 8 hour flight is marginal in that context. And this is compounded by the fact that there are some regions which are geographically closer then Australia, but take significantly longer to travel to because they lack the infrastructure for fast and convenient travel. So honestly 15 hours is not that bad. Yes, strictly you don’t need to travel anywhere, but we should allow people to travel in the most economical way feasible. Supersonic jet travel is not that. If 15 hours in an economy class is too much for you, but you can afford a supersonic flight ticket, perhaps you should consider upgrading to a business class. Or if you don’t like that, consider braking the flight up in 2 or 3 parts sleeping at a nice hotel in between. This is a much more climate friendly option then a supersonic flight that only saves a few hours of your time.
kubb 4y ago
If you have everything you need in your living area then you don't need to go anywhere else, yeah. In most places you can get everything you need within a 200km radius of where you live, unless you have very particular needs. I'm glad you considered all possible ways to mitigate the environmental costs of flying. Seems like wasteful supersonic jets aren't one of them?

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jtwaleson 4y ago

I completely agree that right now, this is the right mindset. We need to reduce our footprints a lot until we are in better shape as a planet. However, I hope that one day we'll be able to travel as much as we want in a sustainable way. It is a great thing.

kubb 4y ago
Would be cool, sure.