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I can't say I've heard much of the Machine World View before. It does put a name to the common scientific view of people and nature With the connection between

I can't say I've heard much of the Machine World View before. It does put a name to the common scientific view of people and nature With the connection between Taoism and martial arts, I particularly meant that Taoism seeks the balance between the self and nature, to bring harmony between them. When one has mastery over a tool or a weapon, it becomes as an extension of the body. There is a harmony between the body and the tool, and between both together and the world. Maybe the connection between the two isn't correct. I'll have to explore gongfu more since it might make a better analogy

hosh 4y ago
Yes, the Machine World View is the mainstream world view of modern society. I got this from Carol Sanford's work on living systems, such as her book, Regenerative Life. It is a world view that, in my opinion (and not necessarily Sanford's), flawed, and the source of much malaise in modernity. As for the oness of weapon and wielder, perhaps you might be thinking of the non-dual perspective of unity consciousness, where everything arises together as a seamless whole, something that is better described in the Zen tradition. Two books relating to unity consciousness and martial arts come to mind. In the Japanese text, "The Tengu's Sermon on the Martial Arts" (a title sometimes translate as the Demon's Sermon on the Martial Arts), the author was trying to convey something along those lines. Embedded within is a parable entitled, "The Cat's Mysterious Ways" (Neko no Myojutsu). Another different (not necessarily Zen take) is Peter Ralston's, "Cheng Hsin: the Principles of Effortless Power". Note that none of these are talking specifically about tools, weapons or otherwise being an extension of the body. That unity is with the whole of reality and not simply user and object that is together somehow separate from the rest of "reality". I wouldn't say that Taoism tries to balance self and nature either, not if one were really to get into "wei wu wei". Ralston spent a whole book writing along those lines. As far as "gongfu" goes, that's the cultural ideal of mastery accumulated over a long period of time. A different approach would be to look at playing Go and how to think holistically with everything influencing everything.

hosh 4y ago

Yes, the Machine World View is the mainstream world view of modern society. I got this from Carol Sanford's work on living systems, such as her book, Regenerative Life. It is a world view that, in my opinion (and not necessarily Sanford's), flawed, and the source of much malaise in modernity. As for the oness of weapon and wielder, perhaps you might be thinking of the non-dual perspective of unity consciousness, where everything arises together as a seamless whole, something that is better described in the Zen tradition. Two books relating to unity consciousness and martial arts come to mind. In the Japanese text, "The Tengu's Sermon on the Martial Arts" (a title sometimes translate as the Demon's Sermon on the Martial Arts), the author was trying to convey something along those lines. Embedded within is a parable entitled, "The Cat's Mysterious Ways" (Neko no Myojutsu). Another different (not necessarily Zen take) is Peter Ralston's, "Cheng Hsin: the Principles of Effortless Power". Note that none of these are talking specifically about tools, weapons or otherwise being an extension of the body. That unity is with the whole of reality and not simply user and object that is together somehow separate from the rest of "reality". I wouldn't say that Taoism tries to balance self and nature either, not if one were really to get into "wei wu wei". Ralston spent a whole book writing along those lines. As far as "gongfu" goes, that's the cultural ideal of mastery accumulated over a long period of time. A different approach would be to look at playing Go and how to think holistically with everything influencing everything.