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I don't hate on the acceleration. Being able to quickly get up to speed and slot yourself safely into traffic is important. EVs have taken quite a while to sh

I don't hate on the acceleration. Being able to quickly get up to speed and slot yourself safely into traffic is important. EVs have taken quite a while to shake off the slowpoke penalty box. If we can make EVs sexy by making them quick, so much the better. Visibility is an issue, but it's always been an issue (camaro, I'm looking at you!). We need better sensors to help protect people. We also need separated bike lanes and safer pedestrian infrastructure. The cars have never been the issue here, it's the single minded focus on car centric infrastructure that's killing people.

brodouevencode 4y ago
So far this seems to be the only reasonable reply in this thread. There's a lot of "big truck bad" energy here. Like I said elsewhere - it's the driver. The vehicle doesn't move without the driver.
- rnk 4y ago
  EV trucks are here now and they are fast. Both the F150-EV and the Rivian R1T are very fast because of their electric drive trains. I'm hoping not to see an increase in pedestrian accidents but time will tell.
  - ericmay 4y ago
    > I'm hoping not to see an increase in pedestrian accidents but time will tell. You will because we're putting supercars into the hands of people who simply cannot handle them and we obscure their line of sight and we design roads and highways for speed and to not have to pay attention to anything except the car in front of you also moving at a high rate of speed. Also let's call this what it is, which is an increase in people being ran over, and cars crashing into each other and disfiguring people for life for no good reason. Calling it an "accident" like spilling milk instead of running over someone and their intestines spilling into the street really downplays how serious of a problem car crashes and running over people is.
    - rnk 4y ago
      So what should we do to prevent these needless injuries? I was thinking maybe rules about visibility? There's no reason in modern evs to have such giant front trunks blocking vision, as the engine isn't there. You could have a high clearance vehicle lowered front trunk I think.
      - ericmay 4y ago
        Part of the solution would be designing and retrofitting roads so that they naturally slow traffic down. Smaller lanes, more frequent stops, more density (not skyscrapers but neighborhoods you love) where people frequently walk and bike so that vehicles just have to slow down. It’s not just the vehicle, that’s only part of the problem. Driving a truck should be uncomfortable in a city due to its size (like it would be in Europe), but not necessarily on the highway or rural roads.
        brodouevencode 4y ago
        It's not the vehicle at all. It's the driver not knowing how to handle it.

brodouevencode 4y ago

So far this seems to be the only reasonable reply in this thread. There's a lot of "big truck bad" energy here. Like I said elsewhere - it's the driver. The vehicle doesn't move without the driver.

rnk 4y ago
EV trucks are here now and they are fast. Both the F150-EV and the Rivian R1T are very fast because of their electric drive trains. I'm hoping not to see an increase in pedestrian accidents but time will tell.
- ericmay 4y ago
  > I'm hoping not to see an increase in pedestrian accidents but time will tell. You will because we're putting supercars into the hands of people who simply cannot handle them and we obscure their line of sight and we design roads and highways for speed and to not have to pay attention to anything except the car in front of you also moving at a high rate of speed. Also let's call this what it is, which is an increase in people being ran over, and cars crashing into each other and disfiguring people for life for no good reason. Calling it an "accident" like spilling milk instead of running over someone and their intestines spilling into the street really downplays how serious of a problem car crashes and running over people is.
  - rnk 4y ago
    So what should we do to prevent these needless injuries? I was thinking maybe rules about visibility? There's no reason in modern evs to have such giant front trunks blocking vision, as the engine isn't there. You could have a high clearance vehicle lowered front trunk I think.
    - ericmay 4y ago
      Part of the solution would be designing and retrofitting roads so that they naturally slow traffic down. Smaller lanes, more frequent stops, more density (not skyscrapers but neighborhoods you love) where people frequently walk and bike so that vehicles just have to slow down. It’s not just the vehicle, that’s only part of the problem. Driving a truck should be uncomfortable in a city due to its size (like it would be in Europe), but not necessarily on the highway or rural roads.
      - brodouevencode 4y ago
        It's not the vehicle at all. It's the driver not knowing how to handle it.