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> Weren't castes based on race and conquering populations initially? No, that's a discredited theory from a century ago. The caste system as we know it began t
by ummonk 4y ago
> Weren't castes based on race and conquering populations initially?
No, that's a discredited theory from a century ago. The caste system as we know it began to come into being about two millennia ago, and the relative ancestries of some of the castes did to some extent reflect the impacts of invasions that had happened long before that. But the ancestry correlation is much stronger geographically and isn't even monotonic with respect to the traditional caste hierarchy.
> How would you describe casteism's status among expatriated Indian populations at a population level? Or is the fact one refers to a population at all to be help in contempt as "racism"?
If you're assuming that it's widespread amongst educated Indian-Americans in top tech companies, then yeah you're probably just engaging in racist stereotyping.
- tomrod 4y ago> If you're assuming that it's widespread amongst educated Indian-Americans in top tech companies Apologies as I'm not in FAANG, so I am fairly uninformed as to their corporate plights and struggles. What population is using the Indian caste system as a basis for discrimination?
- ummonk 4y agoThe ones I have direct anecdotes of myself involve strong subcultures with strong ethnic and caste ties (e.g. Punjabi Jatts in the Central Valley or to a lesser extent, Patels) sometimes retaining casteism (even inter-generationally). It also wouldn't surprise me if the Cisco allegations are accurate (less selective / meritocratic places are more likely to retain old prejudices), though the constant media claims of casteism in FAANG make me hesitant to take any allegations at face value. Edit: to be clear, I don't want to imply those subcultures are always casteist - plenty of Jats and Patels are really chill and accepting, and to stereotype them as casteist would ironically be casteist in itself.