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So if there's fewer deaths overall, including among black kids, but all the deaths are black kids that's not ok? I get your larger point but this one seems like

• j7ake 4y ago
  It would depend on the details. If black kids are dying because the car accelerates in school zones and swerves directly into black kids at high speeds, you can imagine that would obviously be not okay no matter what the statistics are. My point is that a single metric like “deaths overall” is insufficient. The failure modes need to be reasonable and sympathetic to a human.
  • sokoloff 4y ago
    The premise of GP may have been slightly different. If a safety improvement reduces child pedestrian deaths by 100% in groups A, B, C, and D and by 50% in group E, that safety improvement should be welcomed, even though all child pedestrian deaths are now in group E (even though that group is also better off).
    • efitz 4y ago
      That is completely reasonable and would be completely unacceptable politically.
      • sokoloff 4y ago
        Perhaps it could be improved by being explicitly programmed to kill 25% as many children in groups A-D vs the original baseline. Then let activists argue why that figure should be doubled.
• paulryanrogers 4y ago
  Computer vision systems often fail to identify people with darker skin.
• throw_nbvc1234 4y ago
  That's what "equality of outcome" is; it's not about better it's about equality. When equality of outcome is implemented by raising everyone to a better outcome then it's a fine thing but that's not inherent to the underlying concept.