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Wait, the Germans, of all people, don’t have a standard government design system? Next you’re going to say the Swiss also don’t have one, and I’ll have to throw
by qzw 4y ago
Wait, the Germans, of all people, don’t have a standard government design system? Next you’re going to say the Swiss also don’t have one, and I’ll have to throw out my entire set of national stereotypes!
- hannob 4y agoAs someone from Germany I'm sometimes surprised what stereotypes exist outside Germany about it. I can assure you standardizing things is not something Germany is good at.
- DocTomoe 4y agoThe beautiful thing about standards is that there are so many of them.
- PurpleRamen 4y agoPublic sector and the old people are not good at modern solutions, but German officials and companies in general are still very driven in organizing and standardizing the soul out of everything.
- heipei 4y agoWe Germans probably have a standard design system for the documents we send by Fax...
- jamil7 4y agoOr print out hundreds of pages of documents nobody reads and awkwardly wait while someone painstakingly scans each one to “have it digital”.
- vestrigi 4y agoOf course we do. https://styleguide.bundesregierung.de/sg-de/ https://styleguide.bundesregierung.de/sg-de/ Edit: under “Hilfsmittel” there‘s a “Web Component Library”, hidden behind a login.
- mcv 4y agoIt's not entirely surprising. Germany is a federal republic, somewhat similar to the US, with some degree of autonomy for its member states. Switzerland is a confederacy.
- bmn__ 4y agoThis needs correcting. Germany and Switzerland are both federal states, they occupy the same spot on the notional spectrum. <https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/The_pathway_of_regional_integration_or_separation.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/The_path...> The comment would have a point if either state was unitary, but this is not the case. Switzerland was a confederation prior to 1848, the now inaccurate name stuck for I assume sentimental reasons. The issue of republics is orthogonal to the topic under discussion.
- mcv 4y agoMy point is that they're both not the most centralised form of government. Even if Switzerland is officially a federation instead of the confederacy its name suggests, the point still stands.
- eertami 4y ago> Next you’re going to say the Swiss also don’t have one Well... at a federal level there is, but it's a confederacy so most of the time you're interacting with a local canton which has it's own set of systems.
- ghosty141 4y ago1. Our population is quite old thus many people in key positions are quite old and missed the transition to the digital world. 2. So. Much. Bureaucracy. 3. Another factor that doesnt help is that the government pays quite poorly compared to the private companies. Any semi talented dev will find a better position than working for the government
- jansommer 4y agoThe bureaucracy can be a good thing, because it also makes it harder for the government to get information on its citizens, and I think this is deliberate after WW2. Making it hard to exchange information is annoying (I've heard fax machines were still in use during the corona pandemic) but serves as an additional layer of protection from hostile governments. Time will tell if digitizing everything in for instance Denmark (my country) was a good idea. Number 3 is the same in Denmark. You can almost double your salary if you work for the private sector.