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Can't read german. Does anyone have any input on the following question? Isn't a driver meant to constantly monitor a slef driving car and manually take over? D

by gtsop 4y ago

Can't read german. Does anyone have any input on the following question? Isn't a driver meant to constantly monitor a slef driving car and manually take over? Do we know of this person had this ability? Can a person react quick enough to prevent an accident?

jraph 4y ago
I can't answer, but I can't imagine myself being focused enough to be able to react really quickly to an immediate danger on the road if I'm not actively driving the car. I doubt most people would be able to do this. I don't think I'm going to use a self driving car in self driving mode as long as I am expected to watch out for danger and take over if needed. If I need to constantly monitor, I might as well drive. Self-driving is only compelling if this means I can free some time for me while the car is driving, or at least make driving safer. Otherwise, it certainly just makes driving more boring and more dangerous. Until then, I'm more a proponent of making driving easier by removing the manual gears so my focus can be better directed toward the road and less toward the gears. Engines do it better than me anyway.
- heax 4y ago
  Exactly, if the self-driving is good enough after some time you will reduce your attention and will not be able to quickly take over if the car suddenly fails to self-drive in a corner for example.
f1shy 4y ago
Right now is not even clear if the car was in self driving mode. It could be well the case, it is a "normal" accident. The titles in the news are very yellow sometimes...
michaelt 4y ago
There are plenty of other industries - CCTV monitoring, pool lifeguards, pilots using autopilot, airport x-ray operators - and they all know it's incredibly hard for humans to remain vigilant for hours on end when there's no action. I think it's pretty well known in the self-driving car industry that safety drivers do a great job if they have to intervene several times an hour. And they're good at getting the vehicle unstuck if there's e.g. a flat tyre. But for a system that only needs an intervention once a week? The safety drivers often won't react fast enough - they're just there to take the blame.
- hef19898 4y ago
  And all your examples are trained professionals. In case of everyday self driving we are talking about the average joe, I know for sure I wouldn't be avle to jump in in a split second.

by gtsop 4y ago

jraph 4y ago

I can't answer, but I can't imagine myself being focused enough to be able to react really quickly to an immediate danger on the road if I'm not actively driving the car. I doubt most people would be able to do this. I don't think I'm going to use a self driving car in self driving mode as long as I am expected to watch out for danger and take over if needed. If I need to constantly monitor, I might as well drive. Self-driving is only compelling if this means I can free some time for me while the car is driving, or at least make driving safer. Otherwise, it certainly just makes driving more boring and more dangerous. Until then, I'm more a proponent of making driving easier by removing the manual gears so my focus can be better directed toward the road and less toward the gears. Engines do it better than me anyway.

heax 4y ago
Exactly, if the self-driving is good enough after some time you will reduce your attention and will not be able to quickly take over if the car suddenly fails to self-drive in a corner for example.

f1shy 4y ago

Right now is not even clear if the car was in self driving mode. It could be well the case, it is a "normal" accident. The titles in the news are very yellow sometimes...

michaelt 4y ago

There are plenty of other industries - CCTV monitoring, pool lifeguards, pilots using autopilot, airport x-ray operators - and they all know it's incredibly hard for humans to remain vigilant for hours on end when there's no action. I think it's pretty well known in the self-driving car industry that safety drivers do a great job if they have to intervene several times an hour. And they're good at getting the vehicle unstuck if there's e.g. a flat tyre. But for a system that only needs an intervention once a week? The safety drivers often won't react fast enough - they're just there to take the blame.

hef19898 4y ago
And all your examples are trained professionals. In case of everyday self driving we are talking about the average joe, I know for sure I wouldn't be avle to jump in in a split second.