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Yep, greed always seems to win out. Pretty depressing.

anthropodie 4y ago
I think it only inflates the bubble and bubbles burst sooner or later. Only serious, genuine people working on betterment of humanity eventually win. That's what I like to tell myself.
- plankers 4y ago
  tell that to the legacy of margaret thatcher and "there is no alternative"
- inglor_cz 4y ago
  In the long run, we are all dead; how does a win even look like?
  - anthropodie 4y ago
    If you change this world a little for good, you won. It does not matter if you are dead before people realise your contribution to the world. For example, Galileo won.
    - Radim 4y ago
      "Good" as determined by whom? For example, there are people who hold the Scientific Revolution ushered by Galileo&co to be directly responsible for genocides and suffering (of humans and otherwise) on an unprecedented global scale. In the long-term view suggested by inglor_cz, "change this world a little for good" is really just feel-good moralistic posturing. Without specifying "good for whom?", and "on what time scale?", it's a vacuous concept.
      - sss111 4y ago
        "Good" as determined by me. No matter what you do in the world, there will always be people who like what you do and people who hate what you did. That said, you would benefit from learning about effective altruism, it is a philosophical and social movement that advocates using evidence and reason to figure out how to benefit others as much as possible, and taking action on that basis.
- idlehand 4y ago
  Sounds like the just-world fallacy.
aucontrair3 4y ago
Just stop. Except education and healthcare, none of this is that important; it’s vanity projects all the way down; wowing ourselves since there’s no grand competition between space fairing civs, no Heaven to win entry to. None of us are going to Mars. What wins is apathy; indifference to adopting new agency. Stop believing typical meat bags are anything more; that a network of rich exists is entirely due to belief in them. They’re just meat bags. Their figurative identity is not sacrosanct.
Bombthecat 4y ago
I always say: when in doubt, count on greed. It helps alot in life, project management, planning etc etc.

I think it only inflates the bubble and bubbles burst sooner or later. Only serious, genuine people working on betterment of humanity eventually win. That's what I like to tell myself.

plankers 4y ago
tell that to the legacy of margaret thatcher and "there is no alternative"
inglor_cz 4y ago
In the long run, we are all dead; how does a win even look like?
- anthropodie 4y ago
  If you change this world a little for good, you won. It does not matter if you are dead before people realise your contribution to the world. For example, Galileo won.
  - Radim 4y ago
    "Good" as determined by whom? For example, there are people who hold the Scientific Revolution ushered by Galileo&co to be directly responsible for genocides and suffering (of humans and otherwise) on an unprecedented global scale. In the long-term view suggested by inglor_cz, "change this world a little for good" is really just feel-good moralistic posturing. Without specifying "good for whom?", and "on what time scale?", it's a vacuous concept.
    - sss111 4y ago
      "Good" as determined by me. No matter what you do in the world, there will always be people who like what you do and people who hate what you did. That said, you would benefit from learning about effective altruism, it is a philosophical and social movement that advocates using evidence and reason to figure out how to benefit others as much as possible, and taking action on that basis.
idlehand 4y ago
Sounds like the just-world fallacy.

aucontrair3 4y ago

Just stop. Except education and healthcare, none of this is that important; it’s vanity projects all the way down; wowing ourselves since there’s no grand competition between space fairing civs, no Heaven to win entry to. None of us are going to Mars. What wins is apathy; indifference to adopting new agency. Stop believing typical meat bags are anything more; that a network of rich exists is entirely due to belief in them. They’re just meat bags. Their figurative identity is not sacrosanct.

Bombthecat 4y ago

I always say: when in doubt, count on greed. It helps alot in life, project management, planning etc etc.