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I hate to be rude, but you sound extremely out of touch. I grew up in Sydney, Australia, which is so horizontally large that there have been suggestions to [bre

I hate to be rude, but you sound extremely out of touch. I grew up in Sydney, Australia, which is so horizontally large that there have been suggestions to [break it up into three separate cities](https://www.architectureanddesign.com.au/news/breaking-sydney-to-be-split-into-three-separate-ci https://www.architectureanddesign.com.au/news/breaking-sydne...). I lived in a bad area, roughly 1.5 hours from the CBD (downtown) and the most run-down, cramped houses are selling for $900k USD. Much more if you want somewhere near public transport or in an area that is actually nice (read: not terrible) to live in. These days it's barely affordable to live 3 hours commute away from the city. I realise that HN attracts people who are Silicon Valley engineers, but please try to not be so blinded by your financial privilege.

warning26 4y ago
This is an article about Apple's corporate headquarters -- those complaining about this are Silicon Valley engineers with financial privilege.
- gamblor956 4y ago
  Many of the people who work at Apple HQ are not engineers pulling in six figure salaries and can't afford to live close to the office.
- gfxgirl 4y ago
  lol. an Apple salary will get you renting a crappy apartment in a 1970s complex in SV
fabioborellini 4y ago
We need to make young people aware of the perils of urban sprawl. People in their 20s are flexible enough to consider alternative cities and regions to live in when building their career. Having friends and close family makes it more difficult to move. I chose to study, work and build my life in the most expensive and most spread out city in my country, without actually considering the cost of living and typical commuting distances beforehand. I can now afford living within 40-50 minute public transport ride from the office hot spots, and I think I would be happier in cities having realistic 15-20 minute commuting options even if they had a less dynamic job market. Also, studying without risks of starving and homelessness would have been nice. But the facts that smaller cities are more affordable and less spread out were rarely discussed at that time. I believe this kind of advice would be applicable to the US too, since urban sprawl is more amplified there and there are career options outside the Bay area, as well.

warning26 4y ago

This is an article about Apple's corporate headquarters -- those complaining about this are Silicon Valley engineers with financial privilege.

gamblor956 4y ago
Many of the people who work at Apple HQ are not engineers pulling in six figure salaries and can't afford to live close to the office.
gfxgirl 4y ago
lol. an Apple salary will get you renting a crappy apartment in a 1970s complex in SV

fabioborellini 4y ago

We need to make young people aware of the perils of urban sprawl. People in their 20s are flexible enough to consider alternative cities and regions to live in when building their career. Having friends and close family makes it more difficult to move. I chose to study, work and build my life in the most expensive and most spread out city in my country, without actually considering the cost of living and typical commuting distances beforehand. I can now afford living within 40-50 minute public transport ride from the office hot spots, and I think I would be happier in cities having realistic 15-20 minute commuting options even if they had a less dynamic job market. Also, studying without risks of starving and homelessness would have been nice. But the facts that smaller cities are more affordable and less spread out were rarely discussed at that time. I believe this kind of advice would be applicable to the US too, since urban sprawl is more amplified there and there are career options outside the Bay area, as well.