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Our technician caste dislikes religious doctrines. Most of these doctrines discourage--or even prohibit--our most treasured creature comforts, so of course, we

Our technician caste dislikes religious doctrines. Most of these doctrines discourage--or even prohibit--our most treasured creature comforts, so of course, we take the easy way out and shun these doctrines. And we pay for this. Boy do we ever pay! Such people have spiritual holes, which they deny, but are there none the less. They try to fill these holes with material comforts--food, sex, pills, money, et. al. The problem is: you can't fill a spiritual hole with material substance, but in our ignorance we keep piling-on. More restaurants, more drugs, more trips, more money, more hookups--metabolizing the earth, degrading the body, poisoning the children. None of it will ever be enough, because we are using the wrong medicine & operating on false premises.

smt88 4y ago
> Such people have spiritual holes, which they deny, but are there none the less. They try to fill these holes with material comforts--food, sex, pills, money, et. al. What about people who are agnostic, don't abuse these things, and feel happy? Do they have spiritual holes? > More restaurants, more drugs, more trips, more money, more hookups All of these things are on the decline in the United States among young people. They are using drugs/alcohol and having sex less frequently than any previous generation. They are also the least religious. Is it possible that agnosticism is not a predictor of pleasure-seeking activities?
- georgia_peach 4y ago
  The word I chose was comforts, not abuse. You say they are using fewer drugs, but I don't see that. They've merely upgraded their dealers--from street hoods to doctors & pharmacists. Talking to kids today (and hearing about all of their drugs) is almost as boring as talking to my grandparents (and hearing about all of their drugs): SSRIs, ADHD meds (and how do I convince my doc to prescribe them), hormone treatments (for the trans & the old farts trying to re-live their 20s), PrEP, finasteride, dick pills (because they've already messed that up in their 20s with the hair pills), etc. From this board alone, I know more about adderall & HRT that I ever wanted to. And I would be interested to know more about all of these self-denying agnostics you've claimed. Closest thing I have seen to what you have said "in the wild" would be ordinary status-chasing--foregoing the booze and the broads for clicks & social-climbing--which is no better, and no less material, than the comforts I've already listed.

smt88 4y ago

> Such people have spiritual holes, which they deny, but are there none the less. They try to fill these holes with material comforts--food, sex, pills, money, et. al. What about people who are agnostic, don't abuse these things, and feel happy? Do they have spiritual holes? > More restaurants, more drugs, more trips, more money, more hookups All of these things are on the decline in the United States among young people. They are using drugs/alcohol and having sex less frequently than any previous generation. They are also the least religious. Is it possible that agnosticism is not a predictor of pleasure-seeking activities?

georgia_peach 4y ago
The word I chose was comforts, not abuse. You say they are using fewer drugs, but I don't see that. They've merely upgraded their dealers--from street hoods to doctors & pharmacists. Talking to kids today (and hearing about all of their drugs) is almost as boring as talking to my grandparents (and hearing about all of their drugs): SSRIs, ADHD meds (and how do I convince my doc to prescribe them), hormone treatments (for the trans & the old farts trying to re-live their 20s), PrEP, finasteride, dick pills (because they've already messed that up in their 20s with the hair pills), etc. From this board alone, I know more about adderall & HRT that I ever wanted to. And I would be interested to know more about all of these self-denying agnostics you've claimed. Closest thing I have seen to what you have said "in the wild" would be ordinary status-chasing--foregoing the booze and the broads for clicks & social-climbing--which is no better, and no less material, than the comforts I've already listed.