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Last time I went to work in the office I was inundated with chatter, interruption, and distraction. People walked by and said hi and then messaged me from their

Last time I went to work in the office I was inundated with chatter, interruption, and distraction. People walked by and said hi and then messaged me from their desks anyway. I had to leave early because there were actually things things that needed to be done. Maybe Apple has this problem sorted (and strangely I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that they have a no unapproved talking rule implemented) but the simple fact is that efficient and productive work will win in the end, and that isn’t necessarily defined by commuting to a building and being trapped there between certain hours.

onion2k 4y ago
Apple aren't dumb and they know exactly what impact this will have. I suspect this is Apple cutting staff without saying they're cutting staff.
- linkjuice4all 4y ago
  There's a couple of factors that companies might be taking into account when considering RTO - We can fire people that don't want to come back (avoids legal issues with layoffs/firing and directly saves money) - Managers need to see people working and be seen working (people justifying their position - but hard to say if this actually saves money) - We're paying for office space (Apple just paid a lot and can't just give up their lease) - The C-suite's mansions are close by and they need to visibly show they're working/earning their pay Few of these things make sense for a company engaged in profit generation - except getting rid of people and amortizing a fixed/sunk cost. Are there any other reasons that "someone" would want people back in person? Is it really that much more productive to make people get ready for an office (cleaning up, putting on appropriate clothing, etc) and commuting in?
  - zxcvbn4038 4y ago
    Apple can turn their headquarters into a palace for Harry and Meghan! No, on second thought that would be a bigger waste of space then leaving it empty. :)

onion2k 4y ago

Apple aren't dumb and they know exactly what impact this will have. I suspect this is Apple cutting staff without saying they're cutting staff.

linkjuice4all 4y ago
There's a couple of factors that companies might be taking into account when considering RTO - We can fire people that don't want to come back (avoids legal issues with layoffs/firing and directly saves money) - Managers need to see people working and be seen working (people justifying their position - but hard to say if this actually saves money) - We're paying for office space (Apple just paid a lot and can't just give up their lease) - The C-suite's mansions are close by and they need to visibly show they're working/earning their pay Few of these things make sense for a company engaged in profit generation - except getting rid of people and amortizing a fixed/sunk cost. Are there any other reasons that "someone" would want people back in person? Is it really that much more productive to make people get ready for an office (cleaning up, putting on appropriate clothing, etc) and commuting in?
- zxcvbn4038 4y ago
  Apple can turn their headquarters into a palace for Harry and Meghan! No, on second thought that would be a bigger waste of space then leaving it empty. :)