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Discord is abyssmally slow compared to the IRC I use. It is the height of chutzpah to talk about supercharging and extreme low latency, when the end user exper

Discord is abyssmally slow compared to the IRC I use. It is the height of chutzpah to talk about supercharging and extreme low latency, when the end user experience is so molasses slow. > Local SSDs in GCP are exactly 375GB in size Ouch! My SSD from a decade ago is larger than that, and probably, more performant.

bobsmooth 4y ago
From what I understand, IRC is decentralized whereas Discord hosts every chat. Not comparable.
- raydev 4y ago
  Discord offers a lot more features too.
throwaway1777 4y ago
Enterprise ssd is not the same as a consumer one.
- OrvalWintermute 4y ago
  The enterprise SSDs are huge compared to consumer ones, as in 100TB sized. https://nimbusdata.com/products/exadrive/ https://nimbusdata.com/products/exadrive/
brobinson 4y ago
IRC daemons aren't saving PRIVMSGs and other events to disk. They send them to the target user/channel and then that memory is freed. This comparison makes no sense.
- progval 4y ago
  Some do save them to disk: * https://www.unrealircd.org/docs/Channel_history https://www.unrealircd.org/docs/Channel_history * https://docs.inspircd.org/3/modules/chanhistory/ https://docs.inspircd.org/3/modules/chanhistory/ * https://github.com/ergochat/ergo/blob/master/docs/MANUAL.md#persistent-history-with-mysql https://github.com/ergochat/ergo/blob/master/docs/MANUAL.md#... And they are not niche servers; UnrealIRCd and InspIRCd are the top two in terms of deployments according to https://www.ircstats.org/servers https://www.ircstats.org/servers
  - brobinson 4y ago
    Interesting! +H wasn't a thing when I stopped using IRC/writing bots. InspIRCD (and its amusing default config file) was the daemon I always used. Looks like my client of choice (irssi) never added support for this feature.
    - progval 4y ago
      InspIRCd's +H does not depend on client support; when configured it sends the history on join to all clients (except those which marked themselves as bot with mode +B). What irssi lacked though is the "server-time" extension, which means it would display the wrong timestamp for history messages.

bobsmooth 4y ago

From what I understand, IRC is decentralized whereas Discord hosts every chat. Not comparable.

raydev 4y ago
Discord offers a lot more features too.

throwaway1777 4y ago

Enterprise ssd is not the same as a consumer one.

OrvalWintermute 4y ago
The enterprise SSDs are huge compared to consumer ones, as in 100TB sized. https://nimbusdata.com/products/exadrive/ https://nimbusdata.com/products/exadrive/

brobinson 4y ago

IRC daemons aren't saving PRIVMSGs and other events to disk. They send them to the target user/channel and then that memory is freed. This comparison makes no sense.

progval 4y ago
Some do save them to disk: * https://www.unrealircd.org/docs/Channel_history https://www.unrealircd.org/docs/Channel_history * https://docs.inspircd.org/3/modules/chanhistory/ https://docs.inspircd.org/3/modules/chanhistory/ * https://github.com/ergochat/ergo/blob/master/docs/MANUAL.md#persistent-history-with-mysql https://github.com/ergochat/ergo/blob/master/docs/MANUAL.md#... And they are not niche servers; UnrealIRCd and InspIRCd are the top two in terms of deployments according to https://www.ircstats.org/servers https://www.ircstats.org/servers
- brobinson 4y ago
  Interesting! +H wasn't a thing when I stopped using IRC/writing bots. InspIRCD (and its amusing default config file) was the daemon I always used. Looks like my client of choice (irssi) never added support for this feature.
  - progval 4y ago
    InspIRCd's +H does not depend on client support; when configured it sends the history on join to all clients (except those which marked themselves as bot with mode +B). What irssi lacked though is the "server-time" extension, which means it would display the wrong timestamp for history messages.