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What devices are there in the field are reliant on the Google IoT Core Service platform? Are there ‘smart’ devices that are just going to stop working unless

What devices are there in the field are reliant on the Google IoT Core Service platform? Are there ‘smart’ devices that are just going to stop working unless people rewrite the firmware for a different system like AWS or Azure IoT?

baybal2 4y ago
Exactly, everybody who bet on Google in IoT has just got a giant RMA bill. Same has happened when Azure changed its root cert, which was likelly hardcoded into 99% of deployed devices using it.
- dylan604 4y ago
  Do IoT devices not have a USB port to allow for updating of the firmware?
  - the_pwner224 4y ago
    A very large amount of customers are not technically competent enough to successfully update the firmware over USB. Also, from the business side, normally you would do OTA updates for deployed devices; now you need to build and deploy a customer-facing USB update tool for them to run on their laptops. And provide tech support for it, etc. For industrial or B2B IOT you would in many cases need to send out your own field techs to do the update, which costs $$$. So overall, even if you're not literally doing a RMA, it is very very expensive.
  - vineyardmike 4y ago
    some do but you need to actually take every device - which you may have sold to customers - and update. Industrial stuff has multi decade contracts often in remote places.
    - ctolkien 4y ago
      Devices we worked with for a project (thankfully not on GCP) are welded shut once built. They are designed to run for years on an internal battery then need to be recycled. They would all be paperweights in this scenario!
  - jfim 4y ago
    IoT devices can be all kinds of things, from vending machines, HVAC systems, industrial machinery, vehicles, and so on. Some of it might not be updateable over the air, and can be located in all kinds of inconvenient places. I wouldn't want to be the one that has to manually deploy an update to sewer flow monitoring devices, or heavy mining machinery that's in the middle of nowhere.

baybal2 4y ago

Exactly, everybody who bet on Google in IoT has just got a giant RMA bill. Same has happened when Azure changed its root cert, which was likelly hardcoded into 99% of deployed devices using it.

dylan604 4y ago
Do IoT devices not have a USB port to allow for updating of the firmware?
- the_pwner224 4y ago
  A very large amount of customers are not technically competent enough to successfully update the firmware over USB. Also, from the business side, normally you would do OTA updates for deployed devices; now you need to build and deploy a customer-facing USB update tool for them to run on their laptops. And provide tech support for it, etc. For industrial or B2B IOT you would in many cases need to send out your own field techs to do the update, which costs $$$. So overall, even if you're not literally doing a RMA, it is very very expensive.
- vineyardmike 4y ago
  some do but you need to actually take every device - which you may have sold to customers - and update. Industrial stuff has multi decade contracts often in remote places.
  - ctolkien 4y ago
    Devices we worked with for a project (thankfully not on GCP) are welded shut once built. They are designed to run for years on an internal battery then need to be recycled. They would all be paperweights in this scenario!
- jfim 4y ago
  IoT devices can be all kinds of things, from vending machines, HVAC systems, industrial machinery, vehicles, and so on. Some of it might not be updateable over the air, and can be located in all kinds of inconvenient places. I wouldn't want to be the one that has to manually deploy an update to sewer flow monitoring devices, or heavy mining machinery that's in the middle of nowhere.