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The notification shade design is still terrible with comically huge paddings all over the place. Nothing fits. Everything is truncated. My ticket on the subject

The notification shade design is still terrible with comically huge paddings all over the place. Nothing fits. Everything is truncated. My ticket on the subject got closed with bullshittest of excuses: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/232821168 https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/232821168 Can't they, like, add new APIs, but not touch the damn UI without a clearly defined rationale? By "clearly defined" I mean substantiated by something besides calls to emotions. And I'm getting tired of every OS needing a major update every year because reasons. Software products need to have a finished state like every other engineering project does.

invokestatic 4y ago
Your ticket comes across as very confrontational. This puts the developer(s) into a position where they feel the need to defend themselves instead of acting collaboratively with the user to solve their problem.
- MishaalRahman 4y ago
  Agreed, it's not very constructive feedback. Google does respond to feedback on the Issue Tracker, but I've found posts that sound like rants tend to get ignored (unless there's some critical issue at play).
  - hammyhavoc 4y ago
    It's also not a very constructive UI change, and the Pixel 6 doesn't allow rolling back to Android 12, so if you do update, your premium-priced phone suffers a UI downgrade. I don't think anger is unreasonable when all is said and done, it's a phone. It doesn't need constant screwing around with the UI, just make it secure, reliable, and optimize it.
    - thrashh 4y ago
      It doesn’t matter if anger is at play. At the end of the day, if you want something changed, you should act in the best way to get it
      - hammyhavoc 4y ago
        The best way in 2022, sadly, if you have little clout, is to create a public outcry and potential PR disaster. See it every day on Twitter.
- grishka 4y ago
  Yes, I'm explicitly asking them to undo their work because it was actively destructive for everyone's user experience.
  - kingofpandora 4y ago
    How not what is the problem.
  - andrewaylett 4y ago
    Consider, maybe, the psycology of the interaction. You may well be used to direct feedback, but when driving change in another organisation -- especiallly one where it's really cheap for them to simply ignore you -- it can help to consider how people will react and make it as easy as possible for them to take the action you want them to. We can assume that they made these changes deliberately. Therefore it's going to take a lot of conviincing to get them to undo the changes. For what it's worth, too, I disagree with you: I'm quite happy with the asethetic they've built. Although, in case it's not clear to you, no-one outside of Google can see the screenshots you supplied. So I've not seen the specific notifications you're complaining about.
webstrand 4y ago
I don't know why Google has declare a "War on Contrast", but since Android 7 it's only become uglier with each release. It's certainly hell for writing durable tutorials, what with each release shuffling the settings and icons randomly. I wonder if it sell more phones, convincing people to upgrade to get the new Android experience?
- hammyhavoc 4y ago
  People like to have the new shiny that they see around them.
tiltrus 4y ago
I had the same issue at first. But I set font size to large, and display size to small, and the UI became a lot better.
akomtu 4y ago
Imagine you bought a house you like. A year later a team of exterior painters knocks on your door and tells you they are going to repaint your house to keep it up to date with thr latest trends. With some effort you manage to kick them out. This situation repeats a few times until a few months later they show up at night and paint your house without your permission, partially painting over some of the windows and even your car. They also replace your dog with a cat. They do it because they are full time painters employed by the city council and they cant just sit and do nothing.
- grishka 4y ago
  Your comment reminded me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvQcabZ1zrk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvQcabZ1zrk

invokestatic 4y ago

Your ticket comes across as very confrontational. This puts the developer(s) into a position where they feel the need to defend themselves instead of acting collaboratively with the user to solve their problem.

MishaalRahman 4y ago
Agreed, it's not very constructive feedback. Google does respond to feedback on the Issue Tracker, but I've found posts that sound like rants tend to get ignored (unless there's some critical issue at play).
- hammyhavoc 4y ago
  It's also not a very constructive UI change, and the Pixel 6 doesn't allow rolling back to Android 12, so if you do update, your premium-priced phone suffers a UI downgrade. I don't think anger is unreasonable when all is said and done, it's a phone. It doesn't need constant screwing around with the UI, just make it secure, reliable, and optimize it.
  - thrashh 4y ago
    It doesn’t matter if anger is at play. At the end of the day, if you want something changed, you should act in the best way to get it
    - hammyhavoc 4y ago
      The best way in 2022, sadly, if you have little clout, is to create a public outcry and potential PR disaster. See it every day on Twitter.
grishka 4y ago
Yes, I'm explicitly asking them to undo their work because it was actively destructive for everyone's user experience.
- kingofpandora 4y ago
  How not what is the problem.
- andrewaylett 4y ago
  Consider, maybe, the psycology of the interaction. You may well be used to direct feedback, but when driving change in another organisation -- especiallly one where it's really cheap for them to simply ignore you -- it can help to consider how people will react and make it as easy as possible for them to take the action you want them to. We can assume that they made these changes deliberately. Therefore it's going to take a lot of conviincing to get them to undo the changes. For what it's worth, too, I disagree with you: I'm quite happy with the asethetic they've built. Although, in case it's not clear to you, no-one outside of Google can see the screenshots you supplied. So I've not seen the specific notifications you're complaining about.

webstrand 4y ago

I don't know why Google has declare a "War on Contrast", but since Android 7 it's only become uglier with each release. It's certainly hell for writing durable tutorials, what with each release shuffling the settings and icons randomly. I wonder if it sell more phones, convincing people to upgrade to get the new Android experience?

hammyhavoc 4y ago
People like to have the new shiny that they see around them.

tiltrus 4y ago

I had the same issue at first. But I set font size to large, and display size to small, and the UI became a lot better.

akomtu 4y ago

Imagine you bought a house you like. A year later a team of exterior painters knocks on your door and tells you they are going to repaint your house to keep it up to date with thr latest trends. With some effort you manage to kick them out. This situation repeats a few times until a few months later they show up at night and paint your house without your permission, partially painting over some of the windows and even your car. They also replace your dog with a cat. They do it because they are full time painters employed by the city council and they cant just sit and do nothing.

grishka 4y ago
Your comment reminded me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvQcabZ1zrk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvQcabZ1zrk