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I was curious about the sound impact and found these two videos: 1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-sUDSwsE_w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-sUDSwsE_w, 2)

I was curious about the sound impact and found these two videos: 1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-sUDSwsE_w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-sUDSwsE_w, 2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKgN2G9d0dc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKgN2G9d0dc. The first video has pretty sound (pardon the pun) methodology. Findings: Unless you're within 200m of a turbine, the background ambient sounds are louder than the sound of the turbine. Do you have evidence to the contrary?

solardev 4y ago
Anecdotally, having lived in areas where wind farms were repeatedly proposed and then rapidly shot down by neighbors, the NIMBYism was never about science, much less methodology. The kinds of people living in places where you'd want to build wind farms (rural ag land, mainly) tend to be pretty traditional, conservative, anti-government, independent, and basically it's-my-land-dammit types. You can show up with presentations and videos and visualizations and simulations and offer free power and cash incentives and all that, but it usually boils down to "No, because I don't like it, and I don't like you, and I don't trust people like you". It doesn't matter how technically sound a project is if it still seems like "here's another bunch of suits trying to sell us something that only benefits the city dwellers we hate 500 miles away, while telling us they know our land better than we do." Their values and systems of belief/reality-building and trust networks are totally different. Successfully negotiating that doesn't mean "my numbers are more correct" but understanding the different subcultures, what's important to them, and being able to respectfully and empathetically communicate according to their needs, not yours.
- Calvin02 4y ago
  Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm under no delusions that you can convince these people. My primary reason for sharing it was to avoid other (reasonable) people from walking away with some false belief that there might be something to the noise issue. There isn't anything to it. I'm not trying to convince this person. However, there might be others who don't have the time to do the research. This comment is for them.

solardev 4y ago

Anecdotally, having lived in areas where wind farms were repeatedly proposed and then rapidly shot down by neighbors, the NIMBYism was never about science, much less methodology. The kinds of people living in places where you'd want to build wind farms (rural ag land, mainly) tend to be pretty traditional, conservative, anti-government, independent, and basically it's-my-land-dammit types. You can show up with presentations and videos and visualizations and simulations and offer free power and cash incentives and all that, but it usually boils down to "No, because I don't like it, and I don't like you, and I don't trust people like you". It doesn't matter how technically sound a project is if it still seems like "here's another bunch of suits trying to sell us something that only benefits the city dwellers we hate 500 miles away, while telling us they know our land better than we do." Their values and systems of belief/reality-building and trust networks are totally different. Successfully negotiating that doesn't mean "my numbers are more correct" but understanding the different subcultures, what's important to them, and being able to respectfully and empathetically communicate according to their needs, not yours.

Calvin02 4y ago
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm under no delusions that you can convince these people. My primary reason for sharing it was to avoid other (reasonable) people from walking away with some false belief that there might be something to the noise issue. There isn't anything to it. I'm not trying to convince this person. However, there might be others who don't have the time to do the research. This comment is for them.