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Really happy with all the progress. This is really coming together as the project that really brings it all together. The Audio/Video stuff is great and havin

Really happy with all the progress. This is really coming together as the project that really brings it all together. The Audio/Video stuff is great and having it fully embedded in the matrix client will be amazing. P2P is really cool, specially when there is an easy way to have other servers (or your own) temporary hold the message for you when you are offline. Having full local offline matrix with the standard chat client rather then some more specialized tool is a real game changer. What I would like to see is for Matrix Decentralized Identity to be able to be used as a SSO for other sites. Great work and great to see that a great business has been built on this technology as well.

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Arathorn 4y ago
> What I would like to see is for Matrix Decentralized Identity to be able to be used as a SSO for other sites. We haven’t figured out how P2P Matrix will work with authentication yet - it’s kinda ironic that for normal Matrix we are moving to OpenID Connect (ie shifting SSO to normal OIDC providers)… but at the same time P2P Matrix identity is inevitably linked to owning a private key. The solution may to be ensure that OIDC itself has a way to log people in based on presenting a private key - be that your P2P Matrix identity or something else :)
- dane-pgp 4y ago
  > The solution may to be ensure that OIDC itself has a way to log people in based on presenting a private key Isn't that what the OIDC people are trying to achieve with SIOP (Self-Issued OpenID Providers)? The work on that extension to OIDC is a bit new[0], but it seems to share Matrix's goal of decentralisation by letting users have portable identities that aren't dependent on big providers. There is also work to make these SIOP identities integrate with the wider W3C Decentralized Identifiers (DID) ecosystem, through DID-SIOP[1], so that might create some more opportunities for interoperability. [0] https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-self-issued-v2-1_0.html https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-self-issued-v2-1_0.h... [1] https://www.didsiop.org/ https://www.didsiop.org/
- bb010g 4y ago
  Does the OpenID Connect work also include IndieAuth work? It seems like a natural fit for Matrix, given the shared focus on decentralization.

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Arathorn 4y ago

> What I would like to see is for Matrix Decentralized Identity to be able to be used as a SSO for other sites. We haven’t figured out how P2P Matrix will work with authentication yet - it’s kinda ironic that for normal Matrix we are moving to OpenID Connect (ie shifting SSO to normal OIDC providers)… but at the same time P2P Matrix identity is inevitably linked to owning a private key. The solution may to be ensure that OIDC itself has a way to log people in based on presenting a private key - be that your P2P Matrix identity or something else :)

dane-pgp 4y ago
> The solution may to be ensure that OIDC itself has a way to log people in based on presenting a private key Isn't that what the OIDC people are trying to achieve with SIOP (Self-Issued OpenID Providers)? The work on that extension to OIDC is a bit new[0], but it seems to share Matrix's goal of decentralisation by letting users have portable identities that aren't dependent on big providers. There is also work to make these SIOP identities integrate with the wider W3C Decentralized Identifiers (DID) ecosystem, through DID-SIOP[1], so that might create some more opportunities for interoperability. [0] https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-self-issued-v2-1_0.html https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-self-issued-v2-1_0.h... [1] https://www.didsiop.org/ https://www.didsiop.org/
bb010g 4y ago
Does the OpenID Connect work also include IndieAuth work? It seems like a natural fit for Matrix, given the shared focus on decentralization.