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> Covid has BECOME a disease that primarily effects the elderly and immunocompromised. Could you point to a reference on this? My understanding was COVID had a

> Covid has BECOME a disease that primarily effects the elderly and immunocompromised. Could you point to a reference on this? My understanding was COVID had always primarily affected the elderly and immunocompromised.

TheCoelacanth 4y ago
Depends on how you define "primarily". Elderly and immunocompromised have always been at a much higher risk, but there were still thousands of young, healthy people who died in the pre-vaccine days.
- kurupt213 4y ago
  This isn’t true.
  - kennywinker 4y ago
    It, in fact, is true.
    - netmonk 4y ago
      May be your definition of “healthy” might be reviewed. Most <40yo dying were morbid obese. Not healthy.
      - kennywinker 4y ago
        No professional or statistician would describe someone who is “morbidly obese” as not having underlying conditions
- origin_path 4y ago
  Thousands globally? Maybe. If you look at places that didn't overreact like Sweden then there's no excess death under 75, so young people weren't dying regardless of health. In other parts of Europe there was no excess death under 45 but many countries over-reacted especially at the start with ventilator abuse, so that would have hurt the numbers.
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kennywinker 4y ago
Depends on how you interpret "primarily affected". Like, yeah, it always had an outsized impact on the elderly and immunocompromised - but the vaccine and changes in the virus have lead to a pretty decent decrease in risk for younger people. And no I'm not going to go do your reading for you. Vaccine effectiveness stats are easily googled. Reports on omicron's reduced severity are also easily googled.
netmonk 4y ago
The day peoples will understand that BMI > 30 induces immnunodepression. Obese peoples have 5 to 6 times more chance to die from any respiratory disease than normal peoples. Also affecting effectiveness of any vaccine by halving it for obese peoples. Covid-19 was primarily fat shaming, and also naturally targeting old peoples cause they are often weak at advanced age.

TheCoelacanth 4y ago

Depends on how you define "primarily". Elderly and immunocompromised have always been at a much higher risk, but there were still thousands of young, healthy people who died in the pre-vaccine days.

kurupt213 4y ago
This isn’t true.
- kennywinker 4y ago
  It, in fact, is true.
  - netmonk 4y ago
    May be your definition of “healthy” might be reviewed. Most <40yo dying were morbid obese. Not healthy.
    - kennywinker 4y ago
      No professional or statistician would describe someone who is “morbidly obese” as not having underlying conditions
origin_path 4y ago
Thousands globally? Maybe. If you look at places that didn't overreact like Sweden then there's no excess death under 75, so young people weren't dying regardless of health. In other parts of Europe there was no excess death under 45 but many countries over-reacted especially at the start with ventilator abuse, so that would have hurt the numbers.

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kennywinker 4y ago

Depends on how you interpret "primarily affected". Like, yeah, it always had an outsized impact on the elderly and immunocompromised - but the vaccine and changes in the virus have lead to a pretty decent decrease in risk for younger people. And no I'm not going to go do your reading for you. Vaccine effectiveness stats are easily googled. Reports on omicron's reduced severity are also easily googled.

netmonk 4y ago

The day peoples will understand that BMI > 30 induces immnunodepression. Obese peoples have 5 to 6 times more chance to die from any respiratory disease than normal peoples. Also affecting effectiveness of any vaccine by halving it for obese peoples. Covid-19 was primarily fat shaming, and also naturally targeting old peoples cause they are often weak at advanced age.