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"friendly people" but also "hateful racist trumpers"? Well which is it?

by 12many 4y ago

ziddoap 4y ago
I imagine they are referring to different people, not one single person who is both.
- Naritai 4y ago
  More like 'friendly to perceived in-group, not friendly to perceived outsiders'
strikelaserclaw 4y ago
I mean, by large most people in most places in USA are friendly/neutral, since most of the people in SC are conservative, the brand of hate you get from the crazies is of the trump/maga/racist flavor. Where as in liberal areas, you'd probably get a different sort of hate.
garciasn 4y ago
Live in Minnesota. Plenty of liberals, but 'friendly' Minnesotans are not. I vacation every year on Hilton Head in South Carolina--although, with many transplants and vacationers from what I assume are wealthy liberal areas, it's not anywhere near a haven for political cultists. That said, the people are GENUINELY more friendly and will strike up active conversation, want to hang out again, etc; whereas, in Minnesota, it's incredibly difficult to talk with someone more than about the weather. That's what they mean, I'd assume.
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antifa 4y ago
I looked up the stats of SC and noticed that more than one person lives there.
paxys 4y ago
Why can't it be both?
JeremyNT 4y ago
> "friendly people" but also "hateful racist trumpers"? Well which is it? Another native Carolinian chiming in here (from NC, but similar). These people are friendly if you "pass" as one of them. Be white, wear a trucker cap, don't dress up too fancy, use a southern accent (or at least, don't talk too pretty), don't be gay, don't say a damn thing about politics or religion. Don't drive a Prius or something. You're good to go. If you are careful enough they might even occasionally start confiding in you, and expect you to agree with them, about their casually racist views. If you reach this point, you can get by with just not saying anything, and the conversation will usually evolve to other less difficult matters. You can violate these rules, of course, but you need to be able to "pass" by compensating in other ways. So if you do wear a suit and drive a Tesla, you could make up for it if you have a good southern accent or go to church or proudly espouse your conservative values in some other way (carry a sidearm, maybe). Also, my people will sometimes act nice to you even if they hate you. If you're here a while you will learn to recognize it. Southern "hospitality" is incredibly superficial - there's a thin veneer. If you don't look too closely, and you don't care too much about what they really think of you (because really, they're mostly harmless - unless you need something from them), you will be OK. ... unless you have kids. Please don't send kids to public schools in the rural white south if you or they are even vaguely progressive.
- whoknew1122 4y ago
  You could've been describing Texas, too.
- nus07 4y ago
  You do have similar folks in rural Oregon or rural Idaho too . Have you been to Klamath Falls, OR ? If you do have to compare you would probably make a direct comparison to say Athens, GA or Research Triangle, NC . IMO this country already has a huge divide between rural and urban populations no matter which state you are in. Educated college towns are the hidden gems for anyone looking to escape 1m dollar Bay Area houses.
  - ryandrake 4y ago
    OP's rules of thumb are pretty broadly applicable in a great many rural, small-town regions of the USA. If you're politically progressive, you can still pass as a local and blend in if you adopt a few mannerisms and if you're willing to ignore/dodge a lot of questionable conversation material. The only thing you can't really fake is your skin color.
the_only_law 4y ago
In my experience, the south is caricaturized and somewhat overblown, both the good parts and the bad parts.

"friendly people" but also "hateful racist trumpers"? Well which is it?

by 12many 4y ago

"friendly people" but also "hateful racist trumpers"? Well which is it?

ziddoap 4y ago

I imagine they are referring to different people, not one single person who is both.

Naritai 4y ago
More like 'friendly to perceived in-group, not friendly to perceived outsiders'

strikelaserclaw 4y ago

I mean, by large most people in most places in USA are friendly/neutral, since most of the people in SC are conservative, the brand of hate you get from the crazies is of the trump/maga/racist flavor. Where as in liberal areas, you'd probably get a different sort of hate.

garciasn 4y ago

Live in Minnesota. Plenty of liberals, but 'friendly' Minnesotans are not. I vacation every year on Hilton Head in South Carolina--although, with many transplants and vacationers from what I assume are wealthy liberal areas, it's not anywhere near a haven for political cultists. That said, the people are GENUINELY more friendly and will strike up active conversation, want to hang out again, etc; whereas, in Minnesota, it's incredibly difficult to talk with someone more than about the weather. That's what they mean, I'd assume.

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antifa 4y ago

I looked up the stats of SC and noticed that more than one person lives there.

paxys 4y ago

Why can't it be both?

JeremyNT 4y ago

> "friendly people" but also "hateful racist trumpers"? Well which is it? Another native Carolinian chiming in here (from NC, but similar). These people are friendly if you "pass" as one of them. Be white, wear a trucker cap, don't dress up too fancy, use a southern accent (or at least, don't talk too pretty), don't be gay, don't say a damn thing about politics or religion. Don't drive a Prius or something. You're good to go. If you are careful enough they might even occasionally start confiding in you, and expect you to agree with them, about their casually racist views. If you reach this point, you can get by with just not saying anything, and the conversation will usually evolve to other less difficult matters. You can violate these rules, of course, but you need to be able to "pass" by compensating in other ways. So if you do wear a suit and drive a Tesla, you could make up for it if you have a good southern accent or go to church or proudly espouse your conservative values in some other way (carry a sidearm, maybe). Also, my people will sometimes act nice to you even if they hate you. If you're here a while you will learn to recognize it. Southern "hospitality" is incredibly superficial - there's a thin veneer. If you don't look too closely, and you don't care too much about what they really think of you (because really, they're mostly harmless - unless you need something from them), you will be OK. ... unless you have kids. Please don't send kids to public schools in the rural white south if you or they are even vaguely progressive.

whoknew1122 4y ago
You could've been describing Texas, too.
nus07 4y ago
You do have similar folks in rural Oregon or rural Idaho too . Have you been to Klamath Falls, OR ? If you do have to compare you would probably make a direct comparison to say Athens, GA or Research Triangle, NC . IMO this country already has a huge divide between rural and urban populations no matter which state you are in. Educated college towns are the hidden gems for anyone looking to escape 1m dollar Bay Area houses.
- ryandrake 4y ago
  OP's rules of thumb are pretty broadly applicable in a great many rural, small-town regions of the USA. If you're politically progressive, you can still pass as a local and blend in if you adopt a few mannerisms and if you're willing to ignore/dodge a lot of questionable conversation material. The only thing you can't really fake is your skin color.

the_only_law 4y ago

In my experience, the south is caricaturized and somewhat overblown, both the good parts and the bad parts.