I think I hate "back in my day" about as much as anyone else, but the short article quotes him raising valid points; plus, being co-founder and CEO of Whole Foo

I think I hate "back in my day" about as much as anyone else, but the short article quotes him raising valid points; plus, being co-founder and CEO of Whole Food with >40 years there all suggest that he may have some awareness of the topic. I'll check out the podcast later. Edited for clarity.