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Sorry in advance, to be the goyim and ask: Do you have doubts in this privileged model of thinking, or you enjoy the power and then intellectualize the outcome.

by nbzso 4y ago

Sorry in advance, to be the goyim and ask: Do you have doubts in this privileged model of thinking, or you enjoy the power and then intellectualize the outcome. Because we as the stupid ones can "hurt ourselves" and we need the "wisdom" of historically proven "chosen" people with higher IQ, moral ground and knowledge. Right?

noduerme 4y ago
No, you are completely reading some bullshit sense of false superiority into what I said. Your comment is antisemitic but I'll address it as it stands as if you mean it honestly. I don't believe in any "chosen". I believe in what my people taught me, just like the Chinese believe in their own 5000 years of history, or the Czechs have pride for fighting back the Russians but I am not "chosen"...or better than anyone... every group of people have grandfathers who taught them how to survive and how to assess the world. That's all. I'm actually just sharing how I see it.. but I don't think I'm better than anyone else let alone it's my job to moralize, or feel power over anyone. I'm just here to express my opinion like everyone else. By the way, can a Muslim have an opinion about Jesus? They sure do. Can a Buddhist? Yes. Well... the man was a Jew and most of the history of antisemitism revolves around Christians pretending he wasn't a rabbi. So this ain't chosen anything I'm just saying what it is... the man was a Jewish rabbi who rebelled in a few good ways against the Hebrew norms... he was a rebel and I admire what he said and did. This is not scorn on goyim. Frankly if you want it? I don't know what you Romans are still doing worshipping a Jew what, in the year 2022, but that's between you and God
- nbzso 4y ago
  You are wrong, about me. My higher education is theological. I have read some old books. I have a lot of Jewish friends, which have the ability to avoid "antisemitic" label when faced with a constructive question. I put ethical principles above any form of religion. And with the time, my view on religions is growing more negative than positive. Humans essentially are all the same. We have similar needs and dreams, to live decently and enjoy friendship, love and harmony. /// Goy can be used in a derogatory manner. The Yiddish lexicographer Leo Rosten in The New Joys of Yiddish defines goy as someone who is non-Jewish or someone who is dull, insensitive, or heartless.[22] Goy also occurs in many pejorative Yiddish expressions: Dos ken nor a goy - Something only a goy would do or is capable of doing.[22] A goy blabt a goy - "A goy stays a goy," or, less literally, according to Rosten, "What did you expect? Once an anti-Semite always an anti-Semite."[22] Goyisher kopf - "Gentile head," someone who doesn't think ahead, an idiot.[22][23] Goyishe naches - Pleasures or pursuits only a gentile would enjoy.[24] A goy! - Exclamation of exasperation used "when endurance is exhausted, kindliness depleted, the effort to understand useless".[25]
  - noduerme 4y ago
    It's essentially the same word as "Farang" in Thai, just means anyone foreign or outside the ethnicity. The same thing in Chinese translates to "barbarian". I believe Christians have words like "heathen" and "infidel" and "witch" but most of those carry much more viciousness than "goy". Goyim are nonjews. What people do with that or say about them is on them. To be clear, the antisemitic patt of your post was the inference that we all have some opinions about non-Jews, and that calling them goyim was somehow an inside joke. It is literally just a word for anyone not Jewish. You amplified your suspicion of it with your references here but... It means nothing more. Do some white people call black people N** ? Do some white people sit around a bar talking about Kikes? (they do - and I look and act country enough to have heard it a hundred times). Oh yeah and those kikes call us goys... heh. I swear, I've never seen white pride so fearful as when they start ruminating on that little word. But I promise it's mostly just a phrase meaning not one of us. The barbarian overtones are put on by people who don't understand... in order to say "look! they're talking shit about all of us in their funny Yiddish language!" We're not. But thinking we are is basically a conspiracy theory, and that's what makes it antisemitic. Does that make sense?
- mbg721 4y ago
  Everybody and their second cousin have been trying to call themselves the successors of the Romans, from the Byzantines to the Franks to the Ottomans to the Russians to Mussolini. (Edit: and, of course, the Pope) But I think this is the first time I've heard it as a pejorative.

by nbzso 4y ago

noduerme 4y ago

No, you are completely reading some bullshit sense of false superiority into what I said. Your comment is antisemitic but I'll address it as it stands as if you mean it honestly. I don't believe in any "chosen". I believe in what my people taught me, just like the Chinese believe in their own 5000 years of history, or the Czechs have pride for fighting back the Russians but I am not "chosen"...or better than anyone... every group of people have grandfathers who taught them how to survive and how to assess the world. That's all. I'm actually just sharing how I see it.. but I don't think I'm better than anyone else let alone it's my job to moralize, or feel power over anyone. I'm just here to express my opinion like everyone else. By the way, can a Muslim have an opinion about Jesus? They sure do. Can a Buddhist? Yes. Well... the man was a Jew and most of the history of antisemitism revolves around Christians pretending he wasn't a rabbi. So this ain't chosen anything I'm just saying what it is... the man was a Jewish rabbi who rebelled in a few good ways against the Hebrew norms... he was a rebel and I admire what he said and did. This is not scorn on goyim. Frankly if you want it? I don't know what you Romans are still doing worshipping a Jew what, in the year 2022, but that's between you and God

nbzso 4y ago
You are wrong, about me. My higher education is theological. I have read some old books. I have a lot of Jewish friends, which have the ability to avoid "antisemitic" label when faced with a constructive question. I put ethical principles above any form of religion. And with the time, my view on religions is growing more negative than positive. Humans essentially are all the same. We have similar needs and dreams, to live decently and enjoy friendship, love and harmony. /// Goy can be used in a derogatory manner. The Yiddish lexicographer Leo Rosten in The New Joys of Yiddish defines goy as someone who is non-Jewish or someone who is dull, insensitive, or heartless.[22] Goy also occurs in many pejorative Yiddish expressions: Dos ken nor a goy - Something only a goy would do or is capable of doing.[22] A goy blabt a goy - "A goy stays a goy," or, less literally, according to Rosten, "What did you expect? Once an anti-Semite always an anti-Semite."[22] Goyisher kopf - "Gentile head," someone who doesn't think ahead, an idiot.[22][23] Goyishe naches - Pleasures or pursuits only a gentile would enjoy.[24] A goy! - Exclamation of exasperation used "when endurance is exhausted, kindliness depleted, the effort to understand useless".[25]
- noduerme 4y ago
  It's essentially the same word as "Farang" in Thai, just means anyone foreign or outside the ethnicity. The same thing in Chinese translates to "barbarian". I believe Christians have words like "heathen" and "infidel" and "witch" but most of those carry much more viciousness than "goy". Goyim are nonjews. What people do with that or say about them is on them. To be clear, the antisemitic patt of your post was the inference that we all have some opinions about non-Jews, and that calling them goyim was somehow an inside joke. It is literally just a word for anyone not Jewish. You amplified your suspicion of it with your references here but... It means nothing more. Do some white people call black people N** ? Do some white people sit around a bar talking about Kikes? (they do - and I look and act country enough to have heard it a hundred times). Oh yeah and those kikes call us goys... heh. I swear, I've never seen white pride so fearful as when they start ruminating on that little word. But I promise it's mostly just a phrase meaning not one of us. The barbarian overtones are put on by people who don't understand... in order to say "look! they're talking shit about all of us in their funny Yiddish language!" We're not. But thinking we are is basically a conspiracy theory, and that's what makes it antisemitic. Does that make sense?
mbg721 4y ago
Everybody and their second cousin have been trying to call themselves the successors of the Romans, from the Byzantines to the Franks to the Ottomans to the Russians to Mussolini. (Edit: and, of course, the Pope) But I think this is the first time I've heard it as a pejorative.