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> What are the benefits? Being able to access the site from my IPV6 only devices?

by ur-whale 4y ago

speedgoose 4y ago
How many humans browse internet with IPv6 only devices?
- miyuru 4y ago
  some humans do. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31715661 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31715661
  - speedgoose 4y ago
    Interesting, so one stubborn guy in USA who decided to sell broken internet access to its customers. I'm sure they are happy, if this story is true.
- Gigachad 4y ago
  Most mobile phones are v6 only and then go through increasingly unreliable CGNAT setups for v4
  - speedgoose 4y ago
    So they are not IPv6 only if I understand well. Why a CGNAT would be unreliable?
    - joshenders 4y ago
      Yet another over-subscribed device to rewrite packets between you and your destination. Spontaneous connection failures due to port exhaustion or overly aggressive connection timers/recycling. Lack of public to private connectability due to absence of port mapping, or any way to influence the configuration of your carrier’s device.
  - rascul 4y ago
    Unfortunately, AT&T doesn't give my phone a v6 address.
- ur-whale 4y ago
  > How many humans browse internet with IPv6 only devices? If you browse the net on your phone, it's likely you already do or sit behind some kludged up NAT situation which - among other things - severly curtails your freedom to interact with other devices on the internet. And things aren't going to improve in that regard given the shortage of V4 addies.
  - speedgoose 4y ago
    True, but it's not IPv6 only devices.
    - ur-whale 4y ago
      You might have missed the "or" word in my sentence.
dmichulke 4y ago
Until this comment I didn't even know they exist. If you don't mind, what type of device are they and why are they v6 only?
- ur-whale 4y ago
  > what type of device are they Almost all of my computers, including my phone, are behind wireguard on a globally routed /64 IPV6 virtual network. It's a bit of a pain for some sites who do not offer a V6 addie via DNS, but it's extremely flexible and offer tons of other advantages. Specifically, NAT is basically a thing of the past and any of my devices can talk to all of my other devices by establishing a simple TCP connection or shooting a UDP packet at them. I can also access all of my devices from wherever I am connected to the internet, as long as the device has a globally routed V6 addie.
  - ThePowerOfFuet 4y ago
    >as long as the device has a globally routed V6 addie I was waiting for the catch, and I was not disappointed.
    - raxxorraxor 4y ago
      One badly behaving device and your whole network is a screaming blip on the radar that is easily tracked. Any internet device of mine would immediately go into a quarantine subnet. It is a feature not a bug.
    - ur-whale 4y ago
      No catch: my phone is on VPN and therefore has full V6 connectivity.
  - iJohnDoe 4y ago
    This sounds like the 90s when not using a router. Don’t you need a basic router/nat to protect your systems?
    - 4y ago

> What are the benefits? Being able to access the site from my IPV6 only devices?

speedgoose 4y ago

How many humans browse internet with IPv6 only devices?

miyuru 4y ago
some humans do. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31715661 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31715661
- speedgoose 4y ago
  Interesting, so one stubborn guy in USA who decided to sell broken internet access to its customers. I'm sure they are happy, if this story is true.
Gigachad 4y ago
Most mobile phones are v6 only and then go through increasingly unreliable CGNAT setups for v4
- speedgoose 4y ago
  So they are not IPv6 only if I understand well. Why a CGNAT would be unreliable?
  - joshenders 4y ago
    Yet another over-subscribed device to rewrite packets between you and your destination. Spontaneous connection failures due to port exhaustion or overly aggressive connection timers/recycling. Lack of public to private connectability due to absence of port mapping, or any way to influence the configuration of your carrier’s device.
- rascul 4y ago
  Unfortunately, AT&T doesn't give my phone a v6 address.
ur-whale 4y ago
> How many humans browse internet with IPv6 only devices? If you browse the net on your phone, it's likely you already do or sit behind some kludged up NAT situation which - among other things - severly curtails your freedom to interact with other devices on the internet. And things aren't going to improve in that regard given the shortage of V4 addies.
- speedgoose 4y ago
  True, but it's not IPv6 only devices.
  - ur-whale 4y ago
    You might have missed the "or" word in my sentence.

dmichulke 4y ago

Until this comment I didn't even know they exist. If you don't mind, what type of device are they and why are they v6 only?

ur-whale 4y ago
> what type of device are they Almost all of my computers, including my phone, are behind wireguard on a globally routed /64 IPV6 virtual network. It's a bit of a pain for some sites who do not offer a V6 addie via DNS, but it's extremely flexible and offer tons of other advantages. Specifically, NAT is basically a thing of the past and any of my devices can talk to all of my other devices by establishing a simple TCP connection or shooting a UDP packet at them. I can also access all of my devices from wherever I am connected to the internet, as long as the device has a globally routed V6 addie.
- ThePowerOfFuet 4y ago
  >as long as the device has a globally routed V6 addie I was waiting for the catch, and I was not disappointed.
  - raxxorraxor 4y ago
    One badly behaving device and your whole network is a screaming blip on the radar that is easily tracked. Any internet device of mine would immediately go into a quarantine subnet. It is a feature not a bug.
  - ur-whale 4y ago
    No catch: my phone is on VPN and therefore has full V6 connectivity.
- iJohnDoe 4y ago
  This sounds like the 90s when not using a router. Don’t you need a basic router/nat to protect your systems?
  - 4y ago