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Cha: Difference Bu: No Duo: Much There is a big difference in value judgement between "Close Enough" and "Difference Not Much". "Close Enough" is a value judge

by acyou 4y ago

Cha: Difference Bu: No Duo: Much There is a big difference in value judgement between "Close Enough" and "Difference Not Much". "Close Enough" is a value judgement on the customer's behalf, meaning that a factory representative is presuming to know what the exact customer (and the customer's customer, etc) requirements are, maybe even suggesting that th factory knows better than to follow the written specifications! "Difference Not Much" just means that it's hard to tell the difference, without any inherent value judgement on whether the product is acceptable or not. It's not a fundamentally offensive statement in the way that "Close Enough" would be. I think that the correct and polite response to "Cha Bu Duo" would probably be "Cha Bu Duo, but the small amount of Cha that is there is very important to our customers, etc..." I also think this article is a little out of date, some factories in China have definitely been churning out some pretty good stuff for awhile now...

abudabi123 4y ago
I couldn't understand the thinking behind the design and logistics for putting into existence a tiny very hot lamp I bought from IKEA with a rubix cube size piece of magnetic metal wrapped a few times by wire, it was heavy too and potentially a fire causing hazard. And, on the day of purchase IKEA had a lot of unattractive cuddly toy rats in the bargain bin. Perhaps, it is all an inside joke among the supply chain accountants. Sad for the workers in their daily factory grind.
- gambiting 4y ago
  >> for putting into existence a tiny very hot lamp I bought from IKEA with a rubix cube size piece of magnetic metal wrapped a few times by wire I'm not sure I can imagine what you mean exactly - care to explain a bit more?
- kurthr 4y ago
  Hah, I bought one of those rats!
  - abudabi123 4y ago
    I guess a farmer can repurpose on of those rats for cleaning off the mud and manure from the bottom of their boots, the brown color and spikey looking rat coat won't look any different outside by the door welcome mat.
kurthr 4y ago
Yep if the customer can't tell, it's ChaBuDuo! That's part of the reason there's so many damn tests in production and it's so damn hard to ever get rid of one. One of the first and trickiest I had to deal with was a black paint. You can get the black in paint from a lot of different sources, but some of them are (slightly) conductive. The paint had been specified, but when margins are tight the way a CM makes extra money is sourcing on the down low. Well, that conductive paint made things not work! The solution was to measure the conductivity, but there were millions of panels already made up and so a non-contact jig had to be made and a new test added to (near the beginning of) the assembly line to detect and separate the bad parts. It turned out that even after the initial paint substitution, the paint supplier changed their own process and this jig became useful again. It a significant piece of IP that made out product more reliable than others! It was made in the US and shipped to Asia (where I'm sure the reverse engineered it).
illuminati1911 4y ago
"I also think this article is a little out of date, some factories in China have definitely been churning out some pretty good stuff for awhile now... " It is still how 96-98% of China and Chinese manufacturing works, but you are right. Before it was much more and there has been a lot of development during the last 10 years. Also what most western people don't always realize is that the stuff from China that is shipped to western countries is usually higher quality than the stuff they sell domestically. This also applies to western brands. Chinese people have much higher tolerance for low quality and things getting broken so those factories producing the lower tier products are focusing on the domestic market while higher quality manufacturing is more focused in export.
user_named 4y ago
The direct translation of the three characters doesn't matter. Saying chabuduo in reply to a question is like just answering Yeah in English. It means you don't care and it is a non reply.

by acyou 4y ago

abudabi123 4y ago

I couldn't understand the thinking behind the design and logistics for putting into existence a tiny very hot lamp I bought from IKEA with a rubix cube size piece of magnetic metal wrapped a few times by wire, it was heavy too and potentially a fire causing hazard. And, on the day of purchase IKEA had a lot of unattractive cuddly toy rats in the bargain bin. Perhaps, it is all an inside joke among the supply chain accountants. Sad for the workers in their daily factory grind.

gambiting 4y ago
>> for putting into existence a tiny very hot lamp I bought from IKEA with a rubix cube size piece of magnetic metal wrapped a few times by wire I'm not sure I can imagine what you mean exactly - care to explain a bit more?
kurthr 4y ago
Hah, I bought one of those rats!
- abudabi123 4y ago
  I guess a farmer can repurpose on of those rats for cleaning off the mud and manure from the bottom of their boots, the brown color and spikey looking rat coat won't look any different outside by the door welcome mat.

kurthr 4y ago

Yep if the customer can't tell, it's ChaBuDuo! That's part of the reason there's so many damn tests in production and it's so damn hard to ever get rid of one. One of the first and trickiest I had to deal with was a black paint. You can get the black in paint from a lot of different sources, but some of them are (slightly) conductive. The paint had been specified, but when margins are tight the way a CM makes extra money is sourcing on the down low. Well, that conductive paint made things not work! The solution was to measure the conductivity, but there were millions of panels already made up and so a non-contact jig had to be made and a new test added to (near the beginning of) the assembly line to detect and separate the bad parts. It turned out that even after the initial paint substitution, the paint supplier changed their own process and this jig became useful again. It a significant piece of IP that made out product more reliable than others! It was made in the US and shipped to Asia (where I'm sure the reverse engineered it).

illuminati1911 4y ago

"I also think this article is a little out of date, some factories in China have definitely been churning out some pretty good stuff for awhile now... " It is still how 96-98% of China and Chinese manufacturing works, but you are right. Before it was much more and there has been a lot of development during the last 10 years. Also what most western people don't always realize is that the stuff from China that is shipped to western countries is usually higher quality than the stuff they sell domestically. This also applies to western brands. Chinese people have much higher tolerance for low quality and things getting broken so those factories producing the lower tier products are focusing on the domestic market while higher quality manufacturing is more focused in export.

user_named 4y ago

The direct translation of the three characters doesn't matter. Saying chabuduo in reply to a question is like just answering Yeah in English. It means you don't care and it is a non reply.