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What an incompetent shitshow. I don't believe this will impact AAPL's price though. Shareholders and ad sellers are the only "customers"/"users" Cook's Apple i

What an incompetent shitshow. I don't believe this will impact AAPL's price though. Shareholders and ad sellers are the only "customers"/"users" Cook's Apple is interested in and works for and news of this vulnerability will be shushed or soothed outside of tech forums. Whether this will be somehow fixed (Dear Cook's Apple, consider starting with not keeping decryption keys together with encrypted data, duh) or ABI/compatibility will get broken, Apple's marketing will sell the news to shareholders as an improvement and the magic of capitalism will boost the price.

kortilla 4y ago
>don't believe this will impact AAPL's price though. Shareholders and ad sellers are the only "customers"/"users" This is completely wrong. Apple makes very little of its revenue from advertising. Their cash cow customers are iPhone users.
- hericium 4y ago
  Like many/most public companies, Apple doesn't work for cash cows (it's the other way around) but their real customers - shareholders.
  - mrex 4y ago
    Hmm. What public companies do you know of that don't work for their shareholders?
    - hericium 4y ago
      Fresh IPOs have products quality which made them IPOs. It gets downhill around that time and pro-user changes to pro-shareholder, which are very often in opposition.
  - kortilla 4y ago
    Shareholders are not customers FFS. Stop repeating that like it’s some grand insight. Shareholders are owners and shareholders want money. The way to get money is from customers. You don’t make money from shareholders unless you’re running a Ponzi scheme.
    - hericium 4y ago
      > Shareholders are not customers FFS. Stop repeating that like it’s some grand insight. Customer is a recipient of goods provided by seller or vendor in exchange for money or other valuables. User of free service is not a customer by that definition. Unless you would openly treat privacy as currency. Investor who gave a company money is - in my view - a paying customer. They give a business some cash, expecting more in return. It is not paying for service but it is still paying and expecting something in return. A publicly traded company is a product itself and investor is buying that product.
- withinboredom 4y ago
  I see so many ads for their own products inside their products. I hardly believe they don’t make any money from that.
  - michelb 4y ago
    They do make money from ads, but it's a rounding error compared to anything else they make.
kanbara 4y ago
idk why there's so much negativity in your comment, tbh. i don't think that's how apple is at all, and a lot of issues are simply a result of too many priorities and things falling through cracks until improvements are made on focus and development efforts. it's not as malicious as you think
- hericium 4y ago
  > idk why there's so much negativity in your comment I'm a MacBook Pro 2017 owner. It's the negativity towards Cook's Apple in general. Currently my biggest issue with Apple is that their phone is still the lesser evil. Other than using iPhone, Jony Ive and Tim Cook efficiently moved me to other brands.
sgammon 4y ago
FileVault is the actual crypto protection. The inner encryption just likely defeats scanning for known secure strings.

kortilla 4y ago

>don't believe this will impact AAPL's price though. Shareholders and ad sellers are the only "customers"/"users" This is completely wrong. Apple makes very little of its revenue from advertising. Their cash cow customers are iPhone users.

hericium 4y ago
Like many/most public companies, Apple doesn't work for cash cows (it's the other way around) but their real customers - shareholders.
- mrex 4y ago
  Hmm. What public companies do you know of that don't work for their shareholders?
  - hericium 4y ago
    Fresh IPOs have products quality which made them IPOs. It gets downhill around that time and pro-user changes to pro-shareholder, which are very often in opposition.
- kortilla 4y ago
  Shareholders are not customers FFS. Stop repeating that like it’s some grand insight. Shareholders are owners and shareholders want money. The way to get money is from customers. You don’t make money from shareholders unless you’re running a Ponzi scheme.
  - hericium 4y ago
    > Shareholders are not customers FFS. Stop repeating that like it’s some grand insight. Customer is a recipient of goods provided by seller or vendor in exchange for money or other valuables. User of free service is not a customer by that definition. Unless you would openly treat privacy as currency. Investor who gave a company money is - in my view - a paying customer. They give a business some cash, expecting more in return. It is not paying for service but it is still paying and expecting something in return. A publicly traded company is a product itself and investor is buying that product.
withinboredom 4y ago
I see so many ads for their own products inside their products. I hardly believe they don’t make any money from that.
- michelb 4y ago
  They do make money from ads, but it's a rounding error compared to anything else they make.

kanbara 4y ago

idk why there's so much negativity in your comment, tbh. i don't think that's how apple is at all, and a lot of issues are simply a result of too many priorities and things falling through cracks until improvements are made on focus and development efforts. it's not as malicious as you think

hericium 4y ago
> idk why there's so much negativity in your comment I'm a MacBook Pro 2017 owner. It's the negativity towards Cook's Apple in general. Currently my biggest issue with Apple is that their phone is still the lesser evil. Other than using iPhone, Jony Ive and Tim Cook efficiently moved me to other brands.

sgammon 4y ago

FileVault is the actual crypto protection. The inner encryption just likely defeats scanning for known secure strings.