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Were you left to believe John Deere, the person, was being jailbroken? There should be no room for confusion, especially when the text was describing a photo of

Were you left to believe John Deere, the person, was being jailbroken? There should be no room for confusion, especially when the text was describing a photo of a Universal Display playing Doom. "Device" is already given by the nature of the photos.

naikrovek 4y ago
- dang 4y ago
  Can you please stop? I'm sure we can all relate to getting triggered by linguistic annoyances but this is way off topic, seriously tedious, and against the site guidelines: "Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—[...] They're too common to be interesting." "Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Find something interesting to respond to instead." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - naikrovek 4y ago
    I just want some consistency in the grammar we use. I made my point and was fully prepared to leave it at one comment, but others had to swoop in and tell me how wrong I was. you're not picking on them, just me.
    - randomdata 4y ago
      I see nothing in your comments to suggest there is grammar inconsistency. If it had instead said "Sick Codes has jailbroken a 4640 Universal Display", which maintains identical grammar, I doubt we would be here. What you have actually suggested is that the subject selection isn't consistent. I am not sure a strong case has been made for that, though. We can found countless examples of people referring to an object by the name of the business who produced it. This is very common when the individual product lines are not well known, and especially when the branding of the business is what is front and centre. Furthermore, the message was written to describe a set of photos, so what detail was lacking in the words was made up in the images. If you are familiar with Deere's product lines, you can plainly see it is a 4640 that is being referred to. If you are not familiar with Deere's product lines, you know it's not a plow, all while the device calls itself a "John Deere". A branding fail on John Deere's part, perhaps, but the words are consistent with what is shown.
      - naikrovek 4y ago
        randomdata 4y ago
      - dang 4y ago
        Re-inflaming this tedious flamewar after we just asked the originator to stop it was not a good thing to do. Please don't. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - dang 4y ago
      You're right that other users broke the site guidelines as well, and I've scolded a couple of them now. Putting the blame on others, though, is not an appropriate response. When the same commenter who started the flamewar is also the one who most perpetuated it, that commenter is the one primarily at fault. Moderating that is nothing personal and certainly not "picking on you". Please don't do this on HN again. We've already had to ask you many times in the past not to break the site guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - naikrovek 4y ago
        Those guidelines feel a lot more like “rules” than guidelines, when you phrase that the way you did. Just ban me already, then. Don’t threaten people, just do it. I would have deleted my account after reading this if I could quickly figure out how. I don’t want to be trouble for you or any other mod, so just nuke me. I’m not kidding. I can’t play nice, I guess, so do the right thing. It’s a personality flaw of mine and despite working on it for 40+ years, it isn’t going away. ADHD & Autism if you want to know what is so unfixable. All I ever want is some acknowledgment that I have a valid point, even if it isn’t 100% to-the-tee correct, and I can’t seem to get that from the users here. They need to win. All I wanted out of this thread was “I can see your point” but no. So, delete my account. I won’t create a new one.
        naikrovek 4y ago
        What the hell are you waiting for? https://i.imgur.com/zx2rnyW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zx2rnyW.jpg Do it.

naikrovek 4y ago

dang 4y ago
Can you please stop? I'm sure we can all relate to getting triggered by linguistic annoyances but this is way off topic, seriously tedious, and against the site guidelines: "Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—[...] They're too common to be interesting." "Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Find something interesting to respond to instead." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- naikrovek 4y ago
  I just want some consistency in the grammar we use. I made my point and was fully prepared to leave it at one comment, but others had to swoop in and tell me how wrong I was. you're not picking on them, just me.
  - randomdata 4y ago
    I see nothing in your comments to suggest there is grammar inconsistency. If it had instead said "Sick Codes has jailbroken a 4640 Universal Display", which maintains identical grammar, I doubt we would be here. What you have actually suggested is that the subject selection isn't consistent. I am not sure a strong case has been made for that, though. We can found countless examples of people referring to an object by the name of the business who produced it. This is very common when the individual product lines are not well known, and especially when the branding of the business is what is front and centre. Furthermore, the message was written to describe a set of photos, so what detail was lacking in the words was made up in the images. If you are familiar with Deere's product lines, you can plainly see it is a 4640 that is being referred to. If you are not familiar with Deere's product lines, you know it's not a plow, all while the device calls itself a "John Deere". A branding fail on John Deere's part, perhaps, but the words are consistent with what is shown.
    - naikrovek 4y ago
      - randomdata 4y ago
    - dang 4y ago
      Re-inflaming this tedious flamewar after we just asked the originator to stop it was not a good thing to do. Please don't. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - dang 4y ago
    You're right that other users broke the site guidelines as well, and I've scolded a couple of them now. Putting the blame on others, though, is not an appropriate response. When the same commenter who started the flamewar is also the one who most perpetuated it, that commenter is the one primarily at fault. Moderating that is nothing personal and certainly not "picking on you". Please don't do this on HN again. We've already had to ask you many times in the past not to break the site guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - naikrovek 4y ago
      Those guidelines feel a lot more like “rules” than guidelines, when you phrase that the way you did. Just ban me already, then. Don’t threaten people, just do it. I would have deleted my account after reading this if I could quickly figure out how. I don’t want to be trouble for you or any other mod, so just nuke me. I’m not kidding. I can’t play nice, I guess, so do the right thing. It’s a personality flaw of mine and despite working on it for 40+ years, it isn’t going away. ADHD & Autism if you want to know what is so unfixable. All I ever want is some acknowledgment that I have a valid point, even if it isn’t 100% to-the-tee correct, and I can’t seem to get that from the users here. They need to win. All I wanted out of this thread was “I can see your point” but no. So, delete my account. I won’t create a new one.
      - naikrovek 4y ago
        What the hell are you waiting for? https://i.imgur.com/zx2rnyW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zx2rnyW.jpg Do it.