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The device brands itself as a "John Deere", displaying no other visible markings, so I think it is reasonable in this case. Obviously those with inside technic
by randomdata 4y ago
The device brands itself as a "John Deere", displaying no other visible markings, so I think it is reasonable in this case.
Obviously those with inside technical knowledge can refer to it with more clarity, but the tweeter doesn't seem to be someone with strong ties to agriculture to have that technical knowledge in the moment of live-posting something happening in front of him. He's working with the information he has. A branding fail by Deere, perhaps.
It is not unusual to refer to objects by their visible markings, especially when you don't have any additional information to be more specific.
- naikrovek 4y agocouldn't have tacked "device" on the end? too difficult to think of in the moment?
- randomdata 4y agoWere you left to believe John Deere, the person, was being jailbroken? There should be no room for confusion, especially when the text was describing a photo of a Universal Display playing Doom. "Device" is already given by the nature of the photos.
- naikrovek 4y ago
- dang 4y agoCan you please stop? I'm sure we can all relate to getting triggered by linguistic annoyances but this is way off topic, seriously tedious, and against the site guidelines: "Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—[...] They're too common to be interesting." "Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Find something interesting to respond to instead." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- naikrovek 4y agoI just want some consistency in the grammar we use. I made my point and was fully prepared to leave it at one comment, but others had to swoop in and tell me how wrong I was. you're not picking on them, just me.
- randomdata 4y agoI see nothing in your comments to suggest there is grammar inconsistency. If it had instead said "Sick Codes has jailbroken a 4640 Universal Display", which maintains identical grammar, I doubt we would be here. What you have actually suggested is that the subject selection isn't consistent. I am not sure a strong case has been made for that, though. We can found countless examples of people referring to an object by the name of the business who produced it. This is very common when the individual product lines are not well known, and especially when the branding of the business is what is front and centre. Furthermore, the message was written to describe a set of photos, so what detail was lacking in the words was made up in the images. If you are familiar with Deere's product lines, you can plainly see it is a 4640 that is being referred to. If you are not familiar with Deere's product lines, you know it's not a plow, all while the device calls itself a "John Deere". A branding fail on John Deere's part, perhaps, but the words are consistent with what is shown.
- naikrovek 4y ago
- randomdata 4y ago
- dang 4y agoRe-inflaming this tedious flamewar after we just asked the originator to stop it was not a good thing to do. Please don't. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html