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Oke I see what you mean, but isn't that just a reproduction in physical form? They have Warholised painting with 3D printers by creating a systematic method to

by xor99 4y ago

Oke I see what you mean, but isn't that just a reproduction in physical form? They have Warholised painting with 3D printers by creating a systematic method to reproduce art using a new combination of craft. I like it but it's not a totality. I can bring up a form of art that is not captured by this conceptual scheme. Carsten Holler's SOMA: The exhibition Soma was installed at the Hamburger Bahnhof in Berlin in 2010. Its main element were 12 reindeer in two pens running the length of the former railway station. Half of the reindeer were fed the fly agaric mushrooms in their food, which are part of their customary diet in the wild, and turn their urine into a hallucinogen. The reindeer urine was collected by handlers and then stored in on-site refrigerators for use. The experiment was extended to canaries, which were housed in two hanging cage pieces, to mice, and to flies. A mushroom-shaped Elevator Bed was installed in the middle of the space, and visitors could spend the night on the premise for a fee. Do you see what I mean by this digital art vis a vis the collapse of all art being an overreaction? Carsten Holler is a real artist, the art is good, and its not reproducible in the way digi-physical stuff is. It's experiential art and presented in a gallery. Conceptually, its about as far away from DALLE-E as possible but its still art and not "captured". I think art is not over and DALL-E is not poison for artists.

goldenkey 4y ago
The kind of art you're talking about is "high art" and it's a luxury item. The majority of artists don't produce that type of art, and will instead lose out in this scenario.
- xor99 4y ago
  A Ferrari is a luxury item. The exhibition was free but you could pay to stay the night. The guy also designs slides and the tone of his exhibition style is not "high art". Ultimately you are talking about art as a product and that means you think all art is captured by Warhol's system of art. Which is what all digital artists overreacting to this also think. It's not the totality of what art is. I like DALL-E. Good work, but now what else is there beyond digital art? Or by pushing digital art to some more extreme outcome?
  - goldenkey 4y ago
    Technical artists are far different from performance or exhibitionist artists. They aren't even in the same realm. Yeah, art is vast. It includes me saying "Kerflaffle!!" while I ride a unicycle and fart out a candle in a dimly lit room. But that doesn't usually pay bills and most artists don't do this type of art. It serves a different audience/consumer. It has a different market cap. Let's not confuse oranges and grapefruit.

by xor99 4y ago

goldenkey 4y ago

The kind of art you're talking about is "high art" and it's a luxury item. The majority of artists don't produce that type of art, and will instead lose out in this scenario.

xor99 4y ago
A Ferrari is a luxury item. The exhibition was free but you could pay to stay the night. The guy also designs slides and the tone of his exhibition style is not "high art". Ultimately you are talking about art as a product and that means you think all art is captured by Warhol's system of art. Which is what all digital artists overreacting to this also think. It's not the totality of what art is. I like DALL-E. Good work, but now what else is there beyond digital art? Or by pushing digital art to some more extreme outcome?
- goldenkey 4y ago
  Technical artists are far different from performance or exhibitionist artists. They aren't even in the same realm. Yeah, art is vast. It includes me saying "Kerflaffle!!" while I ride a unicycle and fart out a candle in a dimly lit room. But that doesn't usually pay bills and most artists don't do this type of art. It serves a different audience/consumer. It has a different market cap. Let's not confuse oranges and grapefruit.