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> anti-keyboard-navigation as Mac OS seems to be? This is total nonsense. macOS has always had the most consistent built-in keyboard navigation of any OS I can

• jbverschoor 4y ago
  Except for the re-implemented versions of apps in the recent releases where they seem to use catalyst. No keyboard shortcuts whatsoever.
• bastawhiz 4y ago
  Sorry, really? You can't even tab between controls in dialog boxes by default on a fresh install without turning on "Use keyboard navigation to move focus between controls", which you ironically can't enable using the keyboard. Seriously, go try it: open System Preferences and try to do _literally anything_ without using the mouse. Even Finder is wildly unintuitive at times: Enter renames a file, while cmd+O opens it? Or cmd+down, apparently. Press space to show the quick preview of a file, and then cmd+O to open it: the quick preview morphs into the Preview app. But then press cmd+Q, and instead of quitting, it turns back into quick preview. While I'm a macOS user full time, my experience is completely the opposite of yours. I've constantly had to learn weird nuances of how Apple has managed to make keyboard navigation more complicated than it needs to be.
• airtonix 4y ago
  gnome-shell enters the chat.
• armagon 4y ago
  When I was trying to use it keyboard only, I never could remember the magic shortcuts to access the menu bars, even after tweaking system preferences. Using the keyboard with Windows or Linux was way easier, IMO.
• ungamedplayer 4y ago
  For very limited definitions of had, most and any.