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What's funny to me is you can have all this "immersion" and then for most bigger markets you get some rando voicing for Brad Pitt. I can't believe e.g. Germans

What's funny to me is you can have all this "immersion" and then for most bigger markets you get some rando voicing for Brad Pitt. I can't believe e.g. Germans are ok with this. I can't watch Spanish movies with English voiceover, I'd rather have subtitles

tryfinally 4y ago
Subtitles vs dubs/voiceovers are largely a cultural thing. I envy countries where movies/tv shows are pretty much exclusively subtitled, for example Sweden. Coincidentally, Swedes seem to be really fluent in English on average. It's a win-win: you absorb languages for free as a child, and you later get to enjoy art in its original unmutilated form.
- thendrill 4y ago
  "you absorb languages for free as a child"... This is the reason thou. You call it a win win, government calls it "foreign influence"....
- BurningFrog 4y ago
  For countries/language areas with less than 20M people, dubbing isn't economical, so they end up speaking better English.
  - inglor_cz 4y ago
    Czechia is a dubbing stronghold with 10M people. The tradition is just too strong.
    - BurningFrog 4y ago
      Is that tradition from the Communist era? Those regimes had a... less practical approach to economics, and maybe they didn't want the population to know western languages as well.
      - inglor_cz 4y ago
        The tradition is a bit older. We also translate a lot of books, even though the profit margins aren't that big. The main source of government-critical information during the Communist era were the radio transmitters (RFE, Czech broadcast of the BBC, Voice of America) which were hardest to stop. Those stations broadcast in Czech and Slovak. Anything that had to cross a physical customs point (movies, books) was heavily censored.
tqkxzugoaupvwqr 4y ago
If you grow up with movies being fully dubbed in your native language you don’t question it much. Usually the same voice actor voices the same actor(s), so Brad Pitt has the same voice actor voice in all movies. Dubbing movies becomes a problem when you are exposed to the actors’ original voice or the original audio track of movies because dubbing is a poor substitute. And hearing the same voice for different actors breaks immersion.
dougmwne 4y ago
Hah, and then you have countries like Poland where it’s just “That one dude” who talks over everything while he does the voice for all the actors.

tryfinally 4y ago

Subtitles vs dubs/voiceovers are largely a cultural thing. I envy countries where movies/tv shows are pretty much exclusively subtitled, for example Sweden. Coincidentally, Swedes seem to be really fluent in English on average. It's a win-win: you absorb languages for free as a child, and you later get to enjoy art in its original unmutilated form.

thendrill 4y ago
"you absorb languages for free as a child"... This is the reason thou. You call it a win win, government calls it "foreign influence"....
BurningFrog 4y ago
For countries/language areas with less than 20M people, dubbing isn't economical, so they end up speaking better English.
- inglor_cz 4y ago
  Czechia is a dubbing stronghold with 10M people. The tradition is just too strong.
  - BurningFrog 4y ago
    Is that tradition from the Communist era? Those regimes had a... less practical approach to economics, and maybe they didn't want the population to know western languages as well.
    - inglor_cz 4y ago
      The tradition is a bit older. We also translate a lot of books, even though the profit margins aren't that big. The main source of government-critical information during the Communist era were the radio transmitters (RFE, Czech broadcast of the BBC, Voice of America) which were hardest to stop. Those stations broadcast in Czech and Slovak. Anything that had to cross a physical customs point (movies, books) was heavily censored.

tqkxzugoaupvwqr 4y ago

If you grow up with movies being fully dubbed in your native language you don’t question it much. Usually the same voice actor voices the same actor(s), so Brad Pitt has the same voice actor voice in all movies. Dubbing movies becomes a problem when you are exposed to the actors’ original voice or the original audio track of movies because dubbing is a poor substitute. And hearing the same voice for different actors breaks immersion.

dougmwne 4y ago

Hah, and then you have countries like Poland where it’s just “That one dude” who talks over everything while he does the voice for all the actors.