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As a meat eater, I love mushrooms and I think they are so much better as a healthy food than those weird Beyond meats. I also love vegan patties made with vario

As a meat eater, I love mushrooms and I think they are so much better as a healthy food than those weird Beyond meats. I also love vegan patties made with various kind of nuts, beans and veggies. I don’t get this appeal of turning goos and veggies into ‘meat’. Just make them their own thing. You don’t rly have to compete with meat.

virgildotcodes 4y ago
Eh, as a vegan I prefer Beyond burgers to mushroom burgers or those healthier vegan patties made out of various veggies/beans. I'm a meat eater at heart, and the junky meat and cheese substitutes really scratch an itch that the healthier options can't. Given the huge year over year rise in consumption of these substitutes it seems like a lot of people similarly are more down to have the occasional Impossible or Beyond burger from a fast food chain than the old school veggie/bean patties.
Broken_Hippo 4y ago
"I don’t get this appeal of turning goos and veggies into ‘meat’. Just make them their own thing. You don’t rly have to compete with meat." So, people are supposed to go without the comfort food of childhood completely and are supposed to never get some of the textures of these products? I'm not personally a fan of the beyond meat most of the time, but I do use other fake meat from time to time (Quorn, for example, or ground meat made from soy). I can make bean burgers - and do, usually chickpeas and brown rice - but if I'm buying, I'm buying stuff with a nice chewy texture that I can't quite get at home. I make some childhood comfort food, too, and sometimes it just gives and easy protein. And I don't look at it as a competition. I don't care that it tastes of meat and I wouldn't really know anyway - it has been too long. I care that it tastes good enough and has a good texture. Making it taste (or 'bleed') like meat isn't a gimmick for me, but for meat eaters.
- ThalesX 4y ago
  People are free to do whatever they want of course. As a consumer (and investor having lost a significant amount on Beyond Meat), I think this is a pretty bad differentiator as the product always going to be compared to meat instead of being allowed to be its own thing.
  - jart 4y ago
    What would that be? Something grown in a laboratory is never going to be its own thing in the way that seitan, mushrooms, chickpeas, tofu, etc. are their own thing. Beyond Meat made it difficult for themselves by marketing to mainstream carnivores, who aren't going to be happy with something that isn't at least as good or better. Vegetarians, on the other hand, will be super happy and grateful for anything that comes close.
axiomsEnd 4y ago
Flexitarian trying to eat less meat here. - Mushrooms are awesome, but they are trash were it comes to nutiotion values. Not bad, just empty. - Protein-rich vegetables (legumes and beans) are not so easy to make into tasty dish, if you are not used to them. Meat alternatives often have high protein content and they don't requiere... Anything. - I don't have time to discover whole, new world of vegan cuisine, tips and tricks about lentils, fava bean caseroles and other things. I want a normal dinner, just without animals in it.
- Kaibeezy 4y ago
  May I suggest visiting a Middle Eastern grocery and trying a tin of ful medames, (there are numerous spellings) a rich and optionally spicy fava bean stew. I’m sure I once read it’s possibly the most consumed dish in human history. You should find regional variants right there on the shelf — more or less garlic, spice, chickpeas, tahini, parsley, etc. It’s also very easy to make, whether with tinned favas or dried. Simmer with garlic and olive oil, add tahini, lemon juice, parsley, salt/pepper/chili to taste. If you eat eggs and dairy, it’s an epic breakfast. An Ethiopian place I used to know in SF served it very spicy with a poached egg, plain yogurt/labneh, a fresh baguette and amazing tangy coffee. Memorable. Dolmades, the stuffed grape leaves, are also satisfying in a vaguely meatlike way. Caution, while most are veg, some have actual meat.
reader_x 4y ago
From a vegetarian perspective, turning meat into sausage, paste (pate) and other goo is also pretty weird. So weird, in fact, that it gets compared to legislating and the trope is: no one needs to see either made because it’s just too unsettling. Some meat-eaters get bored of meat in its original form so process it into something else tasty - and likewise some vegetarians.

virgildotcodes 4y ago

Eh, as a vegan I prefer Beyond burgers to mushroom burgers or those healthier vegan patties made out of various veggies/beans. I'm a meat eater at heart, and the junky meat and cheese substitutes really scratch an itch that the healthier options can't. Given the huge year over year rise in consumption of these substitutes it seems like a lot of people similarly are more down to have the occasional Impossible or Beyond burger from a fast food chain than the old school veggie/bean patties.

Broken_Hippo 4y ago

"I don’t get this appeal of turning goos and veggies into ‘meat’. Just make them their own thing. You don’t rly have to compete with meat." So, people are supposed to go without the comfort food of childhood completely and are supposed to never get some of the textures of these products? I'm not personally a fan of the beyond meat most of the time, but I do use other fake meat from time to time (Quorn, for example, or ground meat made from soy). I can make bean burgers - and do, usually chickpeas and brown rice - but if I'm buying, I'm buying stuff with a nice chewy texture that I can't quite get at home. I make some childhood comfort food, too, and sometimes it just gives and easy protein. And I don't look at it as a competition. I don't care that it tastes of meat and I wouldn't really know anyway - it has been too long. I care that it tastes good enough and has a good texture. Making it taste (or 'bleed') like meat isn't a gimmick for me, but for meat eaters.

ThalesX 4y ago
People are free to do whatever they want of course. As a consumer (and investor having lost a significant amount on Beyond Meat), I think this is a pretty bad differentiator as the product always going to be compared to meat instead of being allowed to be its own thing.
- jart 4y ago
  What would that be? Something grown in a laboratory is never going to be its own thing in the way that seitan, mushrooms, chickpeas, tofu, etc. are their own thing. Beyond Meat made it difficult for themselves by marketing to mainstream carnivores, who aren't going to be happy with something that isn't at least as good or better. Vegetarians, on the other hand, will be super happy and grateful for anything that comes close.

axiomsEnd 4y ago

Flexitarian trying to eat less meat here. - Mushrooms are awesome, but they are trash were it comes to nutiotion values. Not bad, just empty. - Protein-rich vegetables (legumes and beans) are not so easy to make into tasty dish, if you are not used to them. Meat alternatives often have high protein content and they don't requiere... Anything. - I don't have time to discover whole, new world of vegan cuisine, tips and tricks about lentils, fava bean caseroles and other things. I want a normal dinner, just without animals in it.

Kaibeezy 4y ago
May I suggest visiting a Middle Eastern grocery and trying a tin of ful medames, (there are numerous spellings) a rich and optionally spicy fava bean stew. I’m sure I once read it’s possibly the most consumed dish in human history. You should find regional variants right there on the shelf — more or less garlic, spice, chickpeas, tahini, parsley, etc. It’s also very easy to make, whether with tinned favas or dried. Simmer with garlic and olive oil, add tahini, lemon juice, parsley, salt/pepper/chili to taste. If you eat eggs and dairy, it’s an epic breakfast. An Ethiopian place I used to know in SF served it very spicy with a poached egg, plain yogurt/labneh, a fresh baguette and amazing tangy coffee. Memorable. Dolmades, the stuffed grape leaves, are also satisfying in a vaguely meatlike way. Caution, while most are veg, some have actual meat.

reader_x 4y ago

From a vegetarian perspective, turning meat into sausage, paste (pate) and other goo is also pretty weird. So weird, in fact, that it gets compared to legislating and the trope is: no one needs to see either made because it’s just too unsettling. Some meat-eaters get bored of meat in its original form so process it into something else tasty - and likewise some vegetarians.