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> it would be wise to invest in a world where we move more towards these superior modes of transportation This simply is pre-WWII urban planning. We used to ha
by rahen 4y ago
> it would be wise to invest in a world where we move more towards these superior modes of transportation
This simply is pre-WWII urban planning. We used to have sustainable cities and comprehensive passenger rail systems before we teared them down for cars and suburbia.
- occz 4y agoYes indeed. The fact that conservatives broadly have taken the position supporting of cars and car-oriented development is one of the most absurd things imaginable. Socialized inefficient infrastructure that was not even a thing a hundred years ago being considered a conservative policy, a real hoot.
- ghoward 4y agoI'm not sure how much of this is true. I'm a conservative, and I would love to have more walkable/bikeable cities and to not need a car.
- occz 4y ago>I'm not sure how much of this is true. I'll admit to this not being an opinion I hold based on any kind of scientific observation, this does seem to be an opinion I have anecdotally observed among rural- and suburban-populations, which tend to lean more towards the conservative political spectrum than their urban counterparts. >I'm a conservative, and I would love to have more walkable/bikeable cities and to not need a car. Kudos.
- throwaway894345 4y agoI’m not a conservative, but the independence that cars provide holds a certain appeal and aligns fine with conservative values. Anyway, conservatives happily embrace new technology all the time (almost all conservatives have a smartphone and an Internet connection, and those developments are much more recent than cars); adopting cars isn’t a contradiction at all—clinging to trains and bikes would be the contradiction.
- dzhiurgis 4y agoFor better or worse we used to have 4x less people
- stephen_g 4y agoThe solution to that, in hindsight, was probably not building the majority of new housing in sprawling, low-density suburbs that require a car to get most places people want to go though…
- rahen 4y agoWhich is why industrialized countries with higher population density move back even faster to pre-WWII urban planning (EU), or sometimes never left it (Japan).
- bawolff 4y agoI dont see how it matters. Its not like we have run out of room. Just have 4x the number of small neighbourhood grocery stores
- arise 4y agoWe're running out of something though, or some combination of things. Otherwise you wouldn't have such accelerating inequality and popular unrest.