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You're downvoted, but I agree with you. EVs are so much more boring than the highly evolved, intricate design of ICEs. I marvel at the general principle, at wha

You're downvoted, but I agree with you. EVs are so much more boring than the highly evolved, intricate design of ICEs. I marvel at the general principle, at what engineers continuously came up with to squeeze ever more out of them, even at such "simple" things as stroke order and cylinder configuration (V, inline...). That won't change the fact that EVs are and should be on the way out. All the engineering of the world has not made them come close to the relative (really just relative) simplicity of EVs. I also like ancient phone networks, CRTs, and mechanical calculators. And preserving small numbers of them as artifacts is invaluable, but only with a small number of enthusiasts or in a museum. There are a few Ford Model T still around...

ganbatekudasai 4y ago
Let me make clear actually: I really think EVs are much more boring. To drive and to study. A part of my mind is sad that they are a dead end. But me nerding out about their engineering is not worth keeping them.
- mlindner 4y ago
  There's more to nerd out about with EVs than ICEs in my experience. It's just requires a different kind of nerd.
mlindner 4y ago
> EVs are so much more boring than the highly evolved, intricate design of ICEs. I marvel at the general principle, at what engineers continuously came up with to squeeze ever more out of them, even at such "simple" things as stroke order and cylinder configuration (V, inline...). EV powertrains aren't "simple" and are in fact "intricate", honestly to a higher level than ICEs. Even the motor itself is complex. But honestly, complexity is a bad thing. It means there's more things that can fail.
- ganbatekudasai 4y ago
  Yeah, I meant more the general principle. I can absolutely believe that in the details, EVs are on par or maybe even surpass ICE's complexity. But "electric motor turns axle" is, at its surface level, and much more boring principle than "controlled concurrent explosions timed in the right way actuate pistons which actuate shaft which turns axle". And by default at least an electric motor has a much more linear power curve than an ICE one, so purely at surface level transmissions tend to follow a simpler principle as well. It's why I mentioned old phone networks and CRTs as well.

ganbatekudasai 4y ago

Let me make clear actually: I really think EVs are much more boring. To drive and to study. A part of my mind is sad that they are a dead end. But me nerding out about their engineering is not worth keeping them.

mlindner 4y ago
There's more to nerd out about with EVs than ICEs in my experience. It's just requires a different kind of nerd.

mlindner 4y ago

> EVs are so much more boring than the highly evolved, intricate design of ICEs. I marvel at the general principle, at what engineers continuously came up with to squeeze ever more out of them, even at such "simple" things as stroke order and cylinder configuration (V, inline...). EV powertrains aren't "simple" and are in fact "intricate", honestly to a higher level than ICEs. Even the motor itself is complex. But honestly, complexity is a bad thing. It means there's more things that can fail.

ganbatekudasai 4y ago
Yeah, I meant more the general principle. I can absolutely believe that in the details, EVs are on par or maybe even surpass ICE's complexity. But "electric motor turns axle" is, at its surface level, and much more boring principle than "controlled concurrent explosions timed in the right way actuate pistons which actuate shaft which turns axle". And by default at least an electric motor has a much more linear power curve than an ICE one, so purely at surface level transmissions tend to follow a simpler principle as well. It's why I mentioned old phone networks and CRTs as well.