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Very strong agree. Octoprint is incredibly slow, bloated, and just a poor performer overall. Klipper + Mainsail is such an insane upgrade that I feel like a foo

Very strong agree. Octoprint is incredibly slow, bloated, and just a poor performer overall. Klipper + Mainsail is such an insane upgrade that I feel like a fool for sticking to Octoprint for so long. Using Octoprint reminds me of maintaining a bloated Wordpress + jQuery blob website, and then someone shows you a snappy React version running on a cached edge provider. Night and day difference. Klipper and Klipper based UIs are making huge strides. They are just so responsive and capable.

starik36 4y ago
I am reading their website and I am a bit confused. It says, it's firmware. If I use Mainsail + Klipper, do I need to flash my 3D Printer's firmware to make it work?
- londons_explore 4y ago
  Yes. It has a minimal firmware that runs on the printer, and then all the logic and complex stuff runs on the computer. If the two are unplugged, the print stops immediately.
- grepLeigh 4y ago
  1) You flash Klipper firmware to your 3D printer's microcontroller ("MCU" in Klipper docs). https://www.klipper3d.org/Installation.html#building-and-flashing-the-micro-controller https://www.klipper3d.org/Installation.html#building-and-fla... 2) You run Klipper's server software ("Klippy host") on a Raspberry Pi (or other single-board computer). Klipper provides a JSON RPC API for communicating with your printer, without having to worry about serial baud rates or other low-level details. https://github.com/Klipper3d/klipper/blob/master/docs/API_Server.md https://github.com/Klipper3d/klipper/blob/master/docs/API_Se... 3) You must connect Klipper server (Pi) to the microcontroller running Klipper firmware. I couldn't find a list of supported boards, but you can see all the usual suspects here (stm32, rp2040, etc). https://github.com/Klipper3d/klipper/tree/master/src https://github.com/Klipper3d/klipper/tree/master/src Klipper also provides the ability to use your Raspberry Pi as a 2nd controller if your 3D printer's microcontroller doesn't have enough pin-outs to support your ha https://www.klipper3d.org/RPi_microcontroller.html?h=micro https://www.klipper3d.org/RPi_microcontroller.html?h=micro 4) Mainsail is a front-end webapp that talks to Moonraker, which is a back-end app that manages Files/Gcode/Print Job via HTTP, MQTT, and JSON RPC. Moonraker communicates with "Klippy Host" via JSON RPC. https://github.com/mainsail-crew/mainsail https://github.com/mainsail-crew/mainsail https://moonraker.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ https://moonraker.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ Hope this helps! It's a wild world out there.

starik36 4y ago

I am reading their website and I am a bit confused. It says, it's firmware. If I use Mainsail + Klipper, do I need to flash my 3D Printer's firmware to make it work?

londons_explore 4y ago
Yes. It has a minimal firmware that runs on the printer, and then all the logic and complex stuff runs on the computer. If the two are unplugged, the print stops immediately.
grepLeigh 4y ago
1) You flash Klipper firmware to your 3D printer's microcontroller ("MCU" in Klipper docs). https://www.klipper3d.org/Installation.html#building-and-flashing-the-micro-controller https://www.klipper3d.org/Installation.html#building-and-fla... 2) You run Klipper's server software ("Klippy host") on a Raspberry Pi (or other single-board computer). Klipper provides a JSON RPC API for communicating with your printer, without having to worry about serial baud rates or other low-level details. https://github.com/Klipper3d/klipper/blob/master/docs/API_Server.md https://github.com/Klipper3d/klipper/blob/master/docs/API_Se... 3) You must connect Klipper server (Pi) to the microcontroller running Klipper firmware. I couldn't find a list of supported boards, but you can see all the usual suspects here (stm32, rp2040, etc). https://github.com/Klipper3d/klipper/tree/master/src https://github.com/Klipper3d/klipper/tree/master/src Klipper also provides the ability to use your Raspberry Pi as a 2nd controller if your 3D printer's microcontroller doesn't have enough pin-outs to support your ha https://www.klipper3d.org/RPi_microcontroller.html?h=micro https://www.klipper3d.org/RPi_microcontroller.html?h=micro 4) Mainsail is a front-end webapp that talks to Moonraker, which is a back-end app that manages Files/Gcode/Print Job via HTTP, MQTT, and JSON RPC. Moonraker communicates with "Klippy Host" via JSON RPC. https://github.com/mainsail-crew/mainsail https://github.com/mainsail-crew/mainsail https://moonraker.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ https://moonraker.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ Hope this helps! It's a wild world out there.