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So wait: Rigid, Milwaukee, and Ryobi are all manufactured by the same company (TTi?)? I had no idea Is there any actual difference here or is it all marketing?

So wait: Rigid, Milwaukee, and Ryobi are all manufactured by the same company (TTi?)? I had no idea Is there any actual difference here or is it all marketing? There are the only 3 brands in power tools I recall seeing, so this is very odd.

colechristensen 4y ago
There are a handful. https://www.protoolreviews.com/power-tool-manufacturers-who-owns-them/ https://www.protoolreviews.com/power-tool-manufacturers-who-... I think I’ve seen a better source in the past.
mindslight 4y ago
I think it would be great if using trademarks as standalone labels were prohibited, and a company had to label everything it produced with its own name. So there would be (Stanley/Dewalt, Stanley/Bostich, Stanley/BlackAndDecker) making it apparent they were all made by the same company, rather than letting a handful of companies confuse the market by creating a simulation of competition. Also battery compatibility. What cordless tool manufacturers have done creating incompatible battery connectors should be flat out illegal. There is absolutely no reason for it besides undermining the market by creating artificial lock in monopolies.
- rascul 4y ago
  > Stanley/Dewalt, Stanley/Bostich, Stanley/BlackAndDecker Stanley and Black and Decker have merged, they're called Stanley Black and Decker now.
switchbak 4y ago
My understanding is Milwaukee is still engineered in the States. Their FUEL line (brushless, high end) is very well respected for most tools.
fuckstick 4y ago
You need to look harder - dewalt, makita, hitachi, Bosch in the common middle to pro end, skil, porter cable, black and decker on the low end and that’s just for super common ones. Hilti, festool, Mitabo on the more expensive end. Not to mention the HF and Walmart brands, Crafstman, etc. This is off the cuff, but seriously this is a one second Google search. And yes there is a big difference between ryobi and Milwaukee - it’s classic market segmentation. Ryobi is for hobbyist home light duty shit and competes with B&D, Skil, etc. Milwaukee is made for tradespeople - higher performance motors and parts. They are more expensive - and despite the contingent of tech bros on here thinking they’re the only smart people in existence - people are not paying that premium for no reason or “marketing”.
- NegativeLatency 4y ago
  Except for the new hitachi made rebranded metabo miter saws
- rascul 4y ago
  Minor nitpick, there is no longer a line of Hitachi power tools. After the merger they're now called Metabo HPT.
  - zihotki 4y ago
    Another nitpick, they're Metabo HPT only in North America, in EU and Asia they're Hikoki. So at the end there is still separate Metabo, and there is also Metabo HPT/Hikoki. That's a very strange limbo since it'll be very hard to look for reviews.
opencl 4y ago
If you look at the lower end brands, they're often all selling near-identical licensed products regardless of parent company. The higher end brands are usually actually different from each other.
Brian_K_White 4y ago
And AEG at least. Probably more.

colechristensen 4y ago

There are a handful. https://www.protoolreviews.com/power-tool-manufacturers-who-owns-them/ https://www.protoolreviews.com/power-tool-manufacturers-who-... I think I’ve seen a better source in the past.

mindslight 4y ago

I think it would be great if using trademarks as standalone labels were prohibited, and a company had to label everything it produced with its own name. So there would be (Stanley/Dewalt, Stanley/Bostich, Stanley/BlackAndDecker) making it apparent they were all made by the same company, rather than letting a handful of companies confuse the market by creating a simulation of competition. Also battery compatibility. What cordless tool manufacturers have done creating incompatible battery connectors should be flat out illegal. There is absolutely no reason for it besides undermining the market by creating artificial lock in monopolies.

rascul 4y ago
> Stanley/Dewalt, Stanley/Bostich, Stanley/BlackAndDecker Stanley and Black and Decker have merged, they're called Stanley Black and Decker now.

switchbak 4y ago

My understanding is Milwaukee is still engineered in the States. Their FUEL line (brushless, high end) is very well respected for most tools.

fuckstick 4y ago

You need to look harder - dewalt, makita, hitachi, Bosch in the common middle to pro end, skil, porter cable, black and decker on the low end and that’s just for super common ones. Hilti, festool, Mitabo on the more expensive end. Not to mention the HF and Walmart brands, Crafstman, etc. This is off the cuff, but seriously this is a one second Google search. And yes there is a big difference between ryobi and Milwaukee - it’s classic market segmentation. Ryobi is for hobbyist home light duty shit and competes with B&D, Skil, etc. Milwaukee is made for tradespeople - higher performance motors and parts. They are more expensive - and despite the contingent of tech bros on here thinking they’re the only smart people in existence - people are not paying that premium for no reason or “marketing”.

NegativeLatency 4y ago
Except for the new hitachi made rebranded metabo miter saws
rascul 4y ago
Minor nitpick, there is no longer a line of Hitachi power tools. After the merger they're now called Metabo HPT.
- zihotki 4y ago
  Another nitpick, they're Metabo HPT only in North America, in EU and Asia they're Hikoki. So at the end there is still separate Metabo, and there is also Metabo HPT/Hikoki. That's a very strange limbo since it'll be very hard to look for reviews.

opencl 4y ago

If you look at the lower end brands, they're often all selling near-identical licensed products regardless of parent company. The higher end brands are usually actually different from each other.

Brian_K_White 4y ago

And AEG at least. Probably more.