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Bad SEO I suppose. When I search for something, I often get a page by some "expert" in which the information is wrong, commands don't work and so on. I wish I c

Bad SEO I suppose. When I search for something, I often get a page by some "expert" in which the information is wrong, commands don't work and so on. I wish I could figure out how to eliminate them from my search results. The worst part is that it is usually impossible to contact the author and point out the errors. Like they would care.

hanble 4y ago
Unfortunately you’re probably right. SEO optimized pages have basically taken over most search results, even when they have glaring mistakes :(
DelightOne 4y ago
If we could get the search results from a couple years ago, without the SEO.
- rob_c 4y ago
  Let's be honest Google is having a problem dealing with actual intelligence writing bad stuff as well as surgical intelligence rehashing things. Just because half the internet writes a thing doesn't make it true. And again just because the airport writes it doesn't mean it's tested. Figuring that out by raw ML and no context of the material is probably not going to end well. I think the only solution is will be to keep an updated truth curated by experts humans. Compared to the 90s where spam was spam and three internet was more for the tech savvy it's changed.
tenebrisalietum 4y ago
Full-Internet search is dead. Collect and share bookmarks.
- davidhaymond 4y ago
  So we basically need to go back to the days when Yahoo! was simply a directory of links to cool websites. Curated by humans.
  - makapuf 4y ago
    Dmoz ftw!
  - tenebrisalietum 4y ago
    Would be nice, but today's Yahoo would be SEO-steamrolled too I'm sure. IMHO what is needed is an open, FOSS, royalty-free database-like format for URLs and descriptions NOT intimately connected with the presentation layer (HTML) like RSS. Open Graph is kinda the start of what to collect per URL. Then we need browsers to be able to add/delete/update on this database, let you search through it locally, and allow import/export of portions or the entirety of this database. This is in direct contradiction to today's walled gardens, so it's not ever going to come from FAANG and friends.
  - rascul 4y ago
    Google used to have this. https://web.archive.org/web/20101126162900/http://www.google.com//dirhp https://web.archive.org/web/20101126162900/http://www.google...
  - quickthrower2 4y ago
    But decentralised on the edge network (top edge of browser, below the url bar)
  - hulitu 4y ago
    TBH, yes. The state of web search is so bad that, even if today you find something, you might not find it again in 2 days.
- yieldcrv 4y ago
  Webrings rise once again
  - dicknuckle 4y ago
    Do not mention he old magic to me, I was there when it was written!
LtWorf 4y ago
I think there is a law in India mandating everyone to open a blog and explain linux to people. This must be done in the first 3 months of learning linux.
bediger4000 4y ago
This is certainly true for RaspberryPi tutorials about interfacing with thermometers or other sensors. All the DHT-11 tutorials seem like minor mods of some long lost original, except with new spelling mistakes, and inaccurate pinouts. This would seem to confirm that advertising ultimately corrupts ad-supported media
- bitxbitxbitcoin 4y ago
  The YouTube videos are better because they need it to work on screen.
  - bediger4000 4y ago
    Videos are slow, and it's hard to re watch tricky pieces or compare with other sources.
    - imoverclocked 4y ago
      I wish someone in the ML community would take this on: create a document from video, maybe using the appropriate frames of the video as media in the document. Give people something to glance through instead of having to watch a whole video. Bonus points for making the document interactive with links to appropriate sections of the video as well as links out to the world for products/definitions/etc. Double-bonus points for the ability to squelch awful humor and filler words.
  - squarefoot 4y ago
    Until Google decides to take down one for this or that reason. I would rather use a personal blog (backed up at archive.org just in case) with all the necessary text information, plus links to a video hosted on a decentralized video hosting platform, then maybe publish the video, or part of it, on YouTube as well to attract audience.
  - hulitu 4y ago
    To play videos you need a working video driver and a working soundcard.
akkartik 4y ago
Bad OSE (optimizations on the part of the search engine), you mean.

hanble 4y ago

Unfortunately you’re probably right. SEO optimized pages have basically taken over most search results, even when they have glaring mistakes :(

DelightOne 4y ago

If we could get the search results from a couple years ago, without the SEO.

rob_c 4y ago
Let's be honest Google is having a problem dealing with actual intelligence writing bad stuff as well as surgical intelligence rehashing things. Just because half the internet writes a thing doesn't make it true. And again just because the airport writes it doesn't mean it's tested. Figuring that out by raw ML and no context of the material is probably not going to end well. I think the only solution is will be to keep an updated truth curated by experts humans. Compared to the 90s where spam was spam and three internet was more for the tech savvy it's changed.

tenebrisalietum 4y ago

Full-Internet search is dead. Collect and share bookmarks.

davidhaymond 4y ago
So we basically need to go back to the days when Yahoo! was simply a directory of links to cool websites. Curated by humans.
- makapuf 4y ago
  Dmoz ftw!
- tenebrisalietum 4y ago
  Would be nice, but today's Yahoo would be SEO-steamrolled too I'm sure. IMHO what is needed is an open, FOSS, royalty-free database-like format for URLs and descriptions NOT intimately connected with the presentation layer (HTML) like RSS. Open Graph is kinda the start of what to collect per URL. Then we need browsers to be able to add/delete/update on this database, let you search through it locally, and allow import/export of portions or the entirety of this database. This is in direct contradiction to today's walled gardens, so it's not ever going to come from FAANG and friends.
- rascul 4y ago
  Google used to have this. https://web.archive.org/web/20101126162900/http://www.google.com//dirhp https://web.archive.org/web/20101126162900/http://www.google...
- quickthrower2 4y ago
  But decentralised on the edge network (top edge of browser, below the url bar)
- hulitu 4y ago
  TBH, yes. The state of web search is so bad that, even if today you find something, you might not find it again in 2 days.
yieldcrv 4y ago
Webrings rise once again
- dicknuckle 4y ago
  Do not mention he old magic to me, I was there when it was written!

LtWorf 4y ago

I think there is a law in India mandating everyone to open a blog and explain linux to people. This must be done in the first 3 months of learning linux.

bediger4000 4y ago

This is certainly true for RaspberryPi tutorials about interfacing with thermometers or other sensors. All the DHT-11 tutorials seem like minor mods of some long lost original, except with new spelling mistakes, and inaccurate pinouts. This would seem to confirm that advertising ultimately corrupts ad-supported media

bitxbitxbitcoin 4y ago
The YouTube videos are better because they need it to work on screen.
- bediger4000 4y ago
  Videos are slow, and it's hard to re watch tricky pieces or compare with other sources.
  - imoverclocked 4y ago
    I wish someone in the ML community would take this on: create a document from video, maybe using the appropriate frames of the video as media in the document. Give people something to glance through instead of having to watch a whole video. Bonus points for making the document interactive with links to appropriate sections of the video as well as links out to the world for products/definitions/etc. Double-bonus points for the ability to squelch awful humor and filler words.
- squarefoot 4y ago
  Until Google decides to take down one for this or that reason. I would rather use a personal blog (backed up at archive.org just in case) with all the necessary text information, plus links to a video hosted on a decentralized video hosting platform, then maybe publish the video, or part of it, on YouTube as well to attract audience.
- hulitu 4y ago
  To play videos you need a working video driver and a working soundcard.

akkartik 4y ago

Bad OSE (optimizations on the part of the search engine), you mean.