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Cry me a river. The intersection between people who are operating in the few ethical areas of cryptocurrency and those that need an email marketing service is b

Cry me a river. The intersection between people who are operating in the few ethical areas of cryptocurrency and those that need an email marketing service is basically empty. If you are promoting your cryptocurrency project via email there is a very good chance that you are part of the problem. So this seems like a manifestly reasonable action that is hard to criticize. All these crypto-libertarians seem to love the free market until it makes a decision they disagree with, I wonder why?

18amxn18 4y ago
None of that matters. The problem is the "without warning" part.
- toomuchtodo 4y ago
  There is no contractual obligation to provide notice.
  - 18amxn18 4y ago
    Again, it doesn't matter. No serious provider will ban customers without a fair warning. Same as Namecheap when it ended services for Russian customers with a 6-day notice.
    - bobkazamakis 4y ago
      >No serious provider will ban customers without a fair warning I'm sure no serious customer is within this group as far as they're concerned
      - semiquaver 4y ago
        Exactly. “It doesn’t matter” is what Mailchimp would say to former customers who are unhappy that they have been deprived of a vector to perpetuate Ponzi schemes. And to the tiny fraction of crypto businesses that can’t be fairly described this way, I’m sure it’s not the first time that being part of a largely criminal and fraudulent sector has had this sort of consequence.
- semiquaver 4y ago
  They had plenty of warning, their businesses have been prohibited by Mailchimp since at least early 2018. Expecting a company to give notice before enforcing its long-established policy is not realistic. > Some industries have higher-than-average abuse complaints, which can jeopardize the deliverability of our entire system. Nothing personal, but in order to maintain the highest delivery rates possible for all our customers, we can’t allow businesses that offer these types of services, products, or content: > >[...] > > Also, we cannot allow businesses involved in any aspect of the sale, transaction, exchange, storage, marketing or production of cryptocurrencies, virtual currencies, and any digital assets related to an Initial Coin Offering, to use MailChimp to facilitate or support any of those activities. https://web.archive.org/web/20180403195541/https://mailchimp.com/legal/acceptable_use/ https://web.archive.org/web/20180403195541/https://mailchimp...
tornato7 4y ago
The article mentioned Edge Wallet and Messari, those are very professional and ethical companies. I’m sure they can find other legitimate mail providers, but it’s a shame that Mailchimp decided to blanket-ban a whole industry.
- semiquaver 4y ago
  Here is a tweet [1] on the topic from the founder of Messari: > Dear @Mailchimp, > > Thank you for deplatforming some of crypto’s most reputable brands in the past 48 hours, including @MessariCrypto and @decryptmedia. > > You’re proving our point. > > Mailchimp - and all speech censors - must be destroyed. A call for a former business partner to be destroyed on the basis that they have declined to continue that business relationship is remarkably unprofessional behavior, especially given that their business has been prohibited by the plain terms of Mailchimp’s AUP (with a very reasonable justification) for the entire time that Messari has been a customer [2], meaning that they have been knowingly violating the policy or have not bothered to check. Even so-called ethical and professional crypto-adjacent companies always seem to be anything but after even cursory research. Being one step removed from a crime doesn’t give you clean hands. Selling shovels in a Ponzi gold rush is just as suspect as directly engaging in fraud. [1]: https://twitter.com/twobitidiot/status/1557481836154175488 https://twitter.com/twobitidiot/status/1557481836154175488 [2]: https://web.archive.org/web/20180403195541/https://mailchimp.com/legal/acceptable_use/ https://web.archive.org/web/20180403195541/https://mailchimp...

18amxn18 4y ago

None of that matters. The problem is the "without warning" part.

toomuchtodo 4y ago
There is no contractual obligation to provide notice.
- 18amxn18 4y ago
  Again, it doesn't matter. No serious provider will ban customers without a fair warning. Same as Namecheap when it ended services for Russian customers with a 6-day notice.
  - bobkazamakis 4y ago
    >No serious provider will ban customers without a fair warning I'm sure no serious customer is within this group as far as they're concerned
    - semiquaver 4y ago
      Exactly. “It doesn’t matter” is what Mailchimp would say to former customers who are unhappy that they have been deprived of a vector to perpetuate Ponzi schemes. And to the tiny fraction of crypto businesses that can’t be fairly described this way, I’m sure it’s not the first time that being part of a largely criminal and fraudulent sector has had this sort of consequence.
semiquaver 4y ago
They had plenty of warning, their businesses have been prohibited by Mailchimp since at least early 2018. Expecting a company to give notice before enforcing its long-established policy is not realistic. > Some industries have higher-than-average abuse complaints, which can jeopardize the deliverability of our entire system. Nothing personal, but in order to maintain the highest delivery rates possible for all our customers, we can’t allow businesses that offer these types of services, products, or content: > >[...] > > Also, we cannot allow businesses involved in any aspect of the sale, transaction, exchange, storage, marketing or production of cryptocurrencies, virtual currencies, and any digital assets related to an Initial Coin Offering, to use MailChimp to facilitate or support any of those activities. https://web.archive.org/web/20180403195541/https://mailchimp.com/legal/acceptable_use/ https://web.archive.org/web/20180403195541/https://mailchimp...

tornato7 4y ago

The article mentioned Edge Wallet and Messari, those are very professional and ethical companies. I’m sure they can find other legitimate mail providers, but it’s a shame that Mailchimp decided to blanket-ban a whole industry.

semiquaver 4y ago
Here is a tweet [1] on the topic from the founder of Messari: > Dear @Mailchimp, > > Thank you for deplatforming some of crypto’s most reputable brands in the past 48 hours, including @MessariCrypto and @decryptmedia. > > You’re proving our point. > > Mailchimp - and all speech censors - must be destroyed. A call for a former business partner to be destroyed on the basis that they have declined to continue that business relationship is remarkably unprofessional behavior, especially given that their business has been prohibited by the plain terms of Mailchimp’s AUP (with a very reasonable justification) for the entire time that Messari has been a customer [2], meaning that they have been knowingly violating the policy or have not bothered to check. Even so-called ethical and professional crypto-adjacent companies always seem to be anything but after even cursory research. Being one step removed from a crime doesn’t give you clean hands. Selling shovels in a Ponzi gold rush is just as suspect as directly engaging in fraud. [1]: https://twitter.com/twobitidiot/status/1557481836154175488 https://twitter.com/twobitidiot/status/1557481836154175488 [2]: https://web.archive.org/web/20180403195541/https://mailchimp.com/legal/acceptable_use/ https://web.archive.org/web/20180403195541/https://mailchimp...