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What's important here is that right to repair might require an unlockable bootloader so you can install something that does get updates instead of relying on yo

What's important here is that right to repair might require an unlockable bootloader so you can install something that does get updates instead of relying on your crappy phone manufacturer's planned obsolescence timeline.

scarface74 4y ago
Yes because most users want to depend on a third party to support their phones and not have access to updated Google Play Services.
- _aavaa_ 4y ago
  - A custom rom can still get updated google play services. - most users currently don’t get support, so idk what you’re arguing for here - you already have to rely on countless 3rd parties in order to use your phone
  - scarface74 4y ago
    Most Android users don’t get support. iOS users can just go to Settings and get official updates from Apple without trawling the internet hoping some volunteers decided to support their phone.
    - _aavaa_ 4y ago
      Until apple decides to no longer update their phone. And then they’re in an even worse position. So if that is cause it’s just an old device and new feature don’t have what they need. But others is a decision they make. Look at the recent redesign of the Reminders app, the fact that the new and old version are incompatible is not because of hardware. Nor is their choice to not backport it.
      - scarface74 4y ago
        The iPhone 5s from 2013 got its last security update in September 2021. Can you say the same about an Android device from 2013? The 5s was the first 64 bit iPhone.
        _aavaa_ 4y ago
        No you can’t which is why I switch over a while ago. But why should the phones have to stop getting security updates? Both apple and android manufacturers will abandon those phones at some point. (And security updates are different from feature parity) why should those devices be condemned simply because the manufacturers cannot be bothered. Why should I not be able to update my device simply because the manufacturer can no longer be bothered to do it themselves?
        scarface74 4y ago
        The 6S from 2015 still has software feature parity at least until this September. That’s still pretty good.
        _aavaa_ 4y ago
        > Why should I not be able to update my device simply because the manufacturer can no longer be bothered to do it themselves?

scarface74 4y ago

Yes because most users want to depend on a third party to support their phones and not have access to updated Google Play Services.

_aavaa_ 4y ago
- A custom rom can still get updated google play services. - most users currently don’t get support, so idk what you’re arguing for here - you already have to rely on countless 3rd parties in order to use your phone
- scarface74 4y ago
  Most Android users don’t get support. iOS users can just go to Settings and get official updates from Apple without trawling the internet hoping some volunteers decided to support their phone.
  - _aavaa_ 4y ago
    Until apple decides to no longer update their phone. And then they’re in an even worse position. So if that is cause it’s just an old device and new feature don’t have what they need. But others is a decision they make. Look at the recent redesign of the Reminders app, the fact that the new and old version are incompatible is not because of hardware. Nor is their choice to not backport it.
    - scarface74 4y ago
      The iPhone 5s from 2013 got its last security update in September 2021. Can you say the same about an Android device from 2013? The 5s was the first 64 bit iPhone.
      - _aavaa_ 4y ago
        No you can’t which is why I switch over a while ago. But why should the phones have to stop getting security updates? Both apple and android manufacturers will abandon those phones at some point. (And security updates are different from feature parity) why should those devices be condemned simply because the manufacturers cannot be bothered. Why should I not be able to update my device simply because the manufacturer can no longer be bothered to do it themselves?
        scarface74 4y ago
        The 6S from 2015 still has software feature parity at least until this September. That’s still pretty good.
        _aavaa_ 4y ago
        > Why should I not be able to update my device simply because the manufacturer can no longer be bothered to do it themselves?