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I agree that some more pubic accountability for chemical engineers and programmers would be great, but I hate the hostile, anti-intellectual "us good, chemists

I agree that some more pubic accountability for chemical engineers and programmers would be great, but I hate the hostile, anti-intellectual "us good, chemists bad" vibe with which you say it. There's no need to threaten people. There's chemists who make the world better and chemists who make the world worse, like with every other profession.

southerntofu 4y ago
> the hostile, anti-intellectual "us good, chemists bad" vibe with which you say it. I personally didn't get that from the parent comment. It's just really weird (from an outsider/alien perspective) that in many sectors of the corporate mafia like in the chemical/IT industry obvious and sometimes intentional malicious schemes (which result in actual deaths) are either rewarded or ignored... when in many other branches harmless errors can get you kicked from your job (eg. in restaurants/shops). It's not contempt to point that out. If you believe in the idea that there should be a social contract by which we are bound, the social contract must apply to everyone fairly. So why does it often not apply to cops, judges, landlords and some sectors of the engineering community? > There's chemists who make the world better and chemists who make the world worse, like with every other profession. True, but like in every other profession, it's very hard to make money if you're really trying to make the world better, and i do mean any money (as in find a job at all).
upsidesinclude 4y ago
>have had their failures and now we have licenses and accountability. Read it. We made those engineers accountable and should have done the same for the others. Please review what it means to make a threat, as nothing stated is remotely a "threat". Sounds weakly middle management, BTW. It is a notice that soon there will be accountability. If you are an engineer making the world a better place, then there won't be much to account for will there?
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southerntofu 4y ago

> the hostile, anti-intellectual "us good, chemists bad" vibe with which you say it. I personally didn't get that from the parent comment. It's just really weird (from an outsider/alien perspective) that in many sectors of the corporate mafia like in the chemical/IT industry obvious and sometimes intentional malicious schemes (which result in actual deaths) are either rewarded or ignored... when in many other branches harmless errors can get you kicked from your job (eg. in restaurants/shops). It's not contempt to point that out. If you believe in the idea that there should be a social contract by which we are bound, the social contract must apply to everyone fairly. So why does it often not apply to cops, judges, landlords and some sectors of the engineering community? > There's chemists who make the world better and chemists who make the world worse, like with every other profession. True, but like in every other profession, it's very hard to make money if you're really trying to make the world better, and i do mean any money (as in find a job at all).

upsidesinclude 4y ago

>have had their failures and now we have licenses and accountability. Read it. We made those engineers accountable and should have done the same for the others. Please review what it means to make a threat, as nothing stated is remotely a "threat". Sounds weakly middle management, BTW. It is a notice that soon there will be accountability. If you are an engineer making the world a better place, then there won't be much to account for will there?

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