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I believe that there is a general tiredness affecting large parts of the population. Maybe some side effects of covid-19 / the vaccines or maybe it’s completely

I believe that there is a general tiredness affecting large parts of the population. Maybe some side effects of covid-19 / the vaccines or maybe it’s completely unrelated and more psychological in nature like lack of deeper meaning in most people's lives. All I know is that you have to fight it. this tiredness doesn't go away with more rest. On the contrary, your self-esteem will take a hit and you will internalise your lack of power.

RhodesianHunter 4y ago
I think it has something to do with an accumulation of microplastics and/or PFAS/PFOS in our bodies. One of these things is going to be our generation's version of leaded gasoline.
rolisz 4y ago
How do you fight it? I had COVID in March 2020 and I feel like ever since then I'm more tired all the time, even if I sleep enough.
- the_only_law 4y ago
  I didn’t get COVID till this year. I was vaccinated, and while it was the most sick I’ve felt in years, it was relatively short, the worst symptoms only lasting about a day. A few day’s afterwards, I went out to the mailbox to grab my mail. This is maybe a 5min walk. I was panting heavily by the time I got back. I used to walk 12+ miles a day in shit heat and I’ve never been particularly in shape, so that was worrying. I haven’t noticed any increase in my tiredness, but my sleep schedule had been fucked long before COVID existed.
- garganzol 4y ago
  Take a look at [1]. It may have some actionable explanations on what's going on with you. It all starts with lingering fatigue. [1] https://www.hormonesmatter.com/recovering-from-post-covid-mitochondrial-dysfunction/ https://www.hormonesmatter.com/recovering-from-post-covid-mi...
skrebbel 4y ago
This is dangerous advice, it really depends on what you're tired from and you can't apply it generally. Eg tiredness caused by actual, diagnosed, Long Covid often does go away with more rest. In fact, even a tiny bit too much, too soon, can severely set back your recovery. To my understanding, parent's "just will yourself back into shape" advice is the exact opposite of what long covid patients should be told. (Source: wife has long covid since January; her own experiences + what her therapists say from research and other clients)
- Silverback_VII 4y ago
  To let you drag down by outer circumstances is more dangerous in my opinion. When you start running even if you would rather lay in bed that generates a lot of self-esteem. The resulting positive attitude may even be good for your immune system. In some unfortunate situations you need to take some risks to get out of it.
  - skrebbel 4y ago
    It's not always about attitude, sometimes it's about physical healing. Sometimes, your body really just needs rest. Stop telling people stuff you don't know enough about.
    - Silverback_VII 4y ago
      I know enough about people focusing too much on their wellbeing. You can trust me. Your mindset is more harmful than mine. Sometimes the body needs rest, it's certainly true, but humans are adapted to a rather unforgiving environment in which you had to function even when in bad shape. Mind and body are connected.
      - yibg 4y ago
        It’s the blanket “just walk it off” advise that’s dangerous. No amount of mind over matter will let you walk off a broken leg.
    - 4y ago
taink 4y ago
This 'general tiredness' you're referring to seems to be linked to depressive states, whereas the blog post is more about exhausting yourself by trying to solve every little challenge you come across: > Another key observation is that this tiredness I’ve been feeling is different from depression. I’ve experienced the latter in the past on a few occasions and while there are similarities in how they impact your life, I’d put them in different buckets. If only for the reason that I haven’t encountered these current experiences before. Maybe it's a little bit of both; lack of motivation gradually eating at your reserves and transforming you into a generally tired person.
331c8c71 4y ago
Hard to be sure tbh. I thought I had something like that since I had covid at least twice. Now I am on vacation next to sea and i wouldn't say I lack energy. I think for some the daily grind causes noticeable fatigue fairly quickly (if not managed actively).

RhodesianHunter 4y ago

I think it has something to do with an accumulation of microplastics and/or PFAS/PFOS in our bodies. One of these things is going to be our generation's version of leaded gasoline.

rolisz 4y ago

How do you fight it? I had COVID in March 2020 and I feel like ever since then I'm more tired all the time, even if I sleep enough.

the_only_law 4y ago
I didn’t get COVID till this year. I was vaccinated, and while it was the most sick I’ve felt in years, it was relatively short, the worst symptoms only lasting about a day. A few day’s afterwards, I went out to the mailbox to grab my mail. This is maybe a 5min walk. I was panting heavily by the time I got back. I used to walk 12+ miles a day in shit heat and I’ve never been particularly in shape, so that was worrying. I haven’t noticed any increase in my tiredness, but my sleep schedule had been fucked long before COVID existed.
garganzol 4y ago
Take a look at [1]. It may have some actionable explanations on what's going on with you. It all starts with lingering fatigue. [1] https://www.hormonesmatter.com/recovering-from-post-covid-mitochondrial-dysfunction/ https://www.hormonesmatter.com/recovering-from-post-covid-mi...

skrebbel 4y ago

This is dangerous advice, it really depends on what you're tired from and you can't apply it generally. Eg tiredness caused by actual, diagnosed, Long Covid often does go away with more rest. In fact, even a tiny bit too much, too soon, can severely set back your recovery. To my understanding, parent's "just will yourself back into shape" advice is the exact opposite of what long covid patients should be told. (Source: wife has long covid since January; her own experiences + what her therapists say from research and other clients)

Silverback_VII 4y ago
To let you drag down by outer circumstances is more dangerous in my opinion. When you start running even if you would rather lay in bed that generates a lot of self-esteem. The resulting positive attitude may even be good for your immune system. In some unfortunate situations you need to take some risks to get out of it.
- skrebbel 4y ago
  It's not always about attitude, sometimes it's about physical healing. Sometimes, your body really just needs rest. Stop telling people stuff you don't know enough about.
  - Silverback_VII 4y ago
    I know enough about people focusing too much on their wellbeing. You can trust me. Your mindset is more harmful than mine. Sometimes the body needs rest, it's certainly true, but humans are adapted to a rather unforgiving environment in which you had to function even when in bad shape. Mind and body are connected.
    - yibg 4y ago
      It’s the blanket “just walk it off” advise that’s dangerous. No amount of mind over matter will let you walk off a broken leg.
  - 4y ago

taink 4y ago

This 'general tiredness' you're referring to seems to be linked to depressive states, whereas the blog post is more about exhausting yourself by trying to solve every little challenge you come across: > Another key observation is that this tiredness I’ve been feeling is different from depression. I’ve experienced the latter in the past on a few occasions and while there are similarities in how they impact your life, I’d put them in different buckets. If only for the reason that I haven’t encountered these current experiences before. Maybe it's a little bit of both; lack of motivation gradually eating at your reserves and transforming you into a generally tired person.

331c8c71 4y ago

Hard to be sure tbh. I thought I had something like that since I had covid at least twice. Now I am on vacation next to sea and i wouldn't say I lack energy. I think for some the daily grind causes noticeable fatigue fairly quickly (if not managed actively).