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The world is being destroyed, but at least for a few beautiful moments our nonstick pans were a few cents cheaper
by game-of-throws 4y ago
The world is being destroyed, but at least for a few beautiful moments our nonstick pans were a few cents cheaper
- sudosysgen 4y agoNonstick pans are a negligible source of PFAS compared to various plastic products. For example some paper bowls are 25% PFAS.
- LadyCailin 4y agoThink my unrealized stock gains are safe to drink?
- hammock 4y agoThe nonstick pans today still have PFAS. They removed PFOA but there are hundreds of similar chemicals that they can use instead, which reason would dictate are just as toxic but which so happen to have not been safety tested yet
- madars 4y agoInteresting: this sounds like BPA-free plastics -- a lot of these have BPB and BPS which animal and cell-line studies have found just as concerning, but hey you can slap a "BPA-free" sticker on them!
- hammock 4y agoYes it's quite similar
- permo-w 4y agowhat do you think the feasibility of making the laws a whitelist rather than a blacklist would be? they did it with drugs in the UK
- bushbaba 4y agoFunny as stainless/high carbon steel with butter is perfectly 'non stick' and way healthier. The war on fats caused substantial damage to the health and environment
- RcouF1uZ4gsC 4y ago> Funny as stainless/high carbon steel with butter is perfectly 'non stick' and way healthier. I bet that the butter itself is worse for your health than the minuscule PFAS you are getting from your pan.
- orev 4y ago> stainless/high carbon steel with butter is perfectly 'non stick' Except it isn’t. Try letting melted cheese, or pretty much any starch (pasta, rice, oatmeal, etc) sit in stainless for a while and then see how non-stick it is. It will glue itself to stainless but on non-stick it will slide right off. I’m not arguing in favor of non-stick, and avoid it when possible, but we can’t also be making inaccurate claims either.
- superchroma 4y agoWell, there is also the method of seasoning cast iron cookware.
- orev 4y agoCast iron and stainless are so completely different that this comment doesn’t belong in this thread. Also, cast iron, even when seasoned, would still stick quite a bit in the above scenario (and I can’t imagine any scenario where I’d want to cook starches like that in cast iron).
- culi 4y agoI don't think "the war on fats" is to blame for the rise of PFAS-based nonstick pans. Have you actually tried using both? A world of a difference Also, vegetable oils are incredibly high in omega-6's which compete with omega-3's for the same enzymes. In general the literature suggests we should be consuming about a 4:1 ratio for Omega-3's to Omega-6 fatty acids. Corn-based oil, for example, has a 1:60 ratio I think avoiding excessive vegetable oil intake is still a good idea
- lizardactivist 4y agoThanks, Monsanto!
- austinprete 4y agoAs He died to make men holy, let us die to make things cheap —- Leonard Cohen
- croes 4y agoMaybe capitalism has some serious side effects
- missedthecue 4y agoThank god my preferred economic model doesn't use chemicals
- croes 4y agoIt's not about the use of chemicals as such but the necessity of consumption for the sake of consumption.
- dang 4y agoPlease don't take HN in high-indignation/low-information directions, or post snarky one-liners. It dumbs down discussion, as well taking it off topic and turning it nasty. Important topics deserve better than that. Unimportant topics too, actually. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html