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Well played, MS and Apple.
by swasheck 15y ago
Well played, MS and Apple.
- chollida1 15y agoI don't want this to sound snarky but.... Do you know that they were invited and declined? is it possible that no one asked them to join, or declined to let them join?
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- rzbn 15y agoI think they weren't invited as all the companies in the list are strictly internet companies.
- yahelc 15y agoIt's certainly in Apple's interest that this pass. Less piracy -> More iTunes customers. More iTunes customers -> More iOS devices sold. More iOS devices sold -> More profit for Apple.
- JoshTriplett 15y agoThese bills would also allow someone to demand the takedown of the entire iTunes store over a single allegation of copyright infringement in a single app. Consider how much trouble they've had with patent trolls in the past.
- yahelc 15y agoiTunes Store != App Store
- fpgeek 15y agoWhat about iCloud? Wouldn't they be liable for every song, every photo, every video, every document their users store? Maybe they've got songs (mostly) covered via the agreements for iTunes Match, but the rest seem hard to pull off (especially since, IIRC, taking a picture (or video) of a copyrighted painting, sculpture, etc. can be infringement in some cases).
- masonlee 15y agoiCloud doesn't enable public sharing. It's a personal backup system.
- swasheck 15y agoThank you for the correction. I don't know that but just assumed (and yes, I know what that leads to :)) that they opted out given the collective weight of the other orgs involved.
- Hates_ 15y agoThey are in a totally different market. Why would they be a signee?
- thematt 15y agoWhat are you talking about? Microsoft is in the same market as at least 5 of those companies listed.
- jrockway 15y agoSOPA is largely an anti-counterfeiting bill. Microsoft does not want people to be able to buy counterfeit versions of Windows, so they support this bill. Google, on the other hand, doesn't make anything that can be counterfeited, so they have nothing to gain from this bill. They do have a lot to lose (with all the censorship provisions), so they are taking a stand against the bill.
- un1xl0ser 15y agoI agree that's what they are pushing it for, but they seem to want to apply the same hammers to counterfeiting of physical goods and digital copyright infringement. Physical goods and media are very different. The lost-income argument of this needs to be battled, because I doubt that everyone buying fake rolexes at $200 each is going to be saving up for the real deal. I have to assume that the same type of arguments are propping up this debate. I want to know where the people that support this get these numbers from. Do people really think that by passing this legislation we will somehow get money for nothing? Does anyone really think that this won't be applied to Wikileaks and the like...
- waqf 15y ago> SOPA is ostensibly an anti-counterfeiting bill. ... FTFY.
- rbanffy 15y agoImagine Microsoft being able to block Google at the DNS level because Android infringes on their IP. Imagine Apple wielding the same power against Samsung and every retailer carrying Samsung phones. They may never use that power, but it would certainly make negotiating much easier.
- pixcavator 15y agoAnd Amazon.
- yesbabyyes 15y agoMicrosoft is a supporter of SOPA: http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s968/money http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s968/money