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Yonatan, Yonatan. He's the world's most effective Nazi recruiter. I wish he'd stop. Here, and elsewhere, he openly calls for violence against "Nazis". That's a

Yonatan, Yonatan. He's the world's most effective Nazi recruiter. I wish he'd stop. Here, and elsewhere, he openly calls for violence against "Nazis". That's a label he has habitually misapplied to a variety of people who explicitly denounce any violence (clearly, in contrast to Yonatan) and dehumanization (clearly, in contrast to Yonatan). What a beautiful combination! 1. By abusing the term "Nazi" to broadly apply to people who are not, he creates a group of people sympathetic toward other folks who are called Nazis AND antagonistic towards people who sling the term 2. By openly calling for violence (why is he allowed to do this?), he creates a sense of urgency and panic in those people: "We MUST band together to stop these deranged antifascists before they have the chance to give us irreversible brain damage for existing in public. Who exactly are they?"

binbashthefash 4y ago
He very clearly defined who he was referring to.
- intimidated 4y ago
  His Twitter thread was written to justify public violence against this man: https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer
  - binbashthefash 4y ago
    And Richard Spencer is a Nazi https://invidious.kavin.rocks/watch?v=IKICKcMU3MU https://invidious.kavin.rocks/watch?v=IKICKcMU3MU
    - intimidated 4y ago
      I'm getting a 502 Bad Gateway. Could you share the transcript?
      - binbashthefash 4y ago
        Working link https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IKICKcMU3MU&feature=youtu.be https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IKICKcMU3MU&feature=youtu.be
    - 51d2d678 4y ago
      "The people, whose words create a culture, that sort of radifies violence against a certain group...are punchable" Just let that sink in. [1]: https://youtu.be/Pjj5SmH2WIk?t=64 https://youtu.be/Pjj5SmH2WIk?t=64
      - binbashthefash 4y ago
        https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/11/05/charlottesville-trial-richard-spencer/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/11/05/charlotte...
  - krapp 4y ago
    (checks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Spencer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Spencer) Richard Bertrand Spencer (born May 1978) is an American neo-Nazi, antisemitic conspiracy theorist, and white supremacist. Hmm... (...) Spencer has advocated for the enslavement of Haitians by Whites and the ethnic cleansing of racial minorities from the United States, additionally expressing admiration for the political tactics of American Nazi Party founder George Lincoln Rockwell. He was a featured speaker at the August 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, among other neo-Nazi rallies that Spencer has headlined. Smells like Nazi to me.
    - binbashthefash 4y ago
      chef kiss
    - intimidated 4y ago
      Rather than trusting the editors of Wikipedia—who we often admit in other contexts to be highly ideological—seek out his full statements instead. Richard Spencer has repeatedly, specifically denounced the enslavement of Black people. Here's an example from Time magazine: https://time.com/4293564/the-billionaire-and-the-bigots/ https://time.com/4293564/the-billionaire-and-the-bigots/
      - krapp 4y ago
        You're posting an article which is about Richard Spencer being a white supremacist, and which explicitly calls him such in the article's byline, and not even defending him with a "full statement" but a description of an unsourced quote within a paragraph describing his attempts to soften the image of his white supremacist ideology to make it more palatable to the public. Meanwhile the source for the claim about slavery appears to contain something closer to a full statement, from his own podcast: On his Altright.com podcast in February, Spencer lamented that the United States military never engages in war “for the right reasons,” which he said are when “you want to dominate someone, you want to take their territory, you want to take their women.” And if those reasons don’t suffice, Spencer said, he believes it is acceptable to go to war simply for “vainglory.” When one of his guests began to complain that the United States Navy sent ships to provide humanitarian aid to Haitians after a hurricane devastated the country last year, Spencer had another idea for what the military should have done. “Exactly, no. You should go enslave them. That would actually be a proper war aim,” Spencer said, before apologizing for “really going nuts” and then retracting that apology because “you need to go nuts in order to prove a point.” Spencer said he hoped white people in America get so frustrated with the military’s humanitarian efforts that they “flip over into this domineering type, and I obviously hope that happens.” “This is the kind of thing that’s truly traditional and historical. You display your power. Phallic symbols in the center of the capital city. That’s what it’s all fucking about,” Spencer said. I'm not about to get into a quote for quote debate with a green account trying to defend the integrity of a neo-nazi on the internet, though. So let's just split the difference and say he only sometimes supports slavery under certain circumstances, and in certain company.
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binbashthefash 4y ago

He very clearly defined who he was referring to.

intimidated 4y ago
His Twitter thread was written to justify public violence against this man: https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer
- binbashthefash 4y ago
  And Richard Spencer is a Nazi https://invidious.kavin.rocks/watch?v=IKICKcMU3MU https://invidious.kavin.rocks/watch?v=IKICKcMU3MU
  - intimidated 4y ago
    I'm getting a 502 Bad Gateway. Could you share the transcript?
    - binbashthefash 4y ago
      Working link https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IKICKcMU3MU&feature=youtu.be https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IKICKcMU3MU&feature=youtu.be
  - 51d2d678 4y ago
    "The people, whose words create a culture, that sort of radifies violence against a certain group...are punchable" Just let that sink in. [1]: https://youtu.be/Pjj5SmH2WIk?t=64 https://youtu.be/Pjj5SmH2WIk?t=64
    - binbashthefash 4y ago
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/11/05/charlottesville-trial-richard-spencer/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/11/05/charlotte...
- krapp 4y ago
  (checks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Spencer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Spencer) Richard Bertrand Spencer (born May 1978) is an American neo-Nazi, antisemitic conspiracy theorist, and white supremacist. Hmm... (...) Spencer has advocated for the enslavement of Haitians by Whites and the ethnic cleansing of racial minorities from the United States, additionally expressing admiration for the political tactics of American Nazi Party founder George Lincoln Rockwell. He was a featured speaker at the August 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, among other neo-Nazi rallies that Spencer has headlined. Smells like Nazi to me.
  - binbashthefash 4y ago
    chef kiss
  - intimidated 4y ago
    Rather than trusting the editors of Wikipedia—who we often admit in other contexts to be highly ideological—seek out his full statements instead. Richard Spencer has repeatedly, specifically denounced the enslavement of Black people. Here's an example from Time magazine: https://time.com/4293564/the-billionaire-and-the-bigots/ https://time.com/4293564/the-billionaire-and-the-bigots/
    - krapp 4y ago
      You're posting an article which is about Richard Spencer being a white supremacist, and which explicitly calls him such in the article's byline, and not even defending him with a "full statement" but a description of an unsourced quote within a paragraph describing his attempts to soften the image of his white supremacist ideology to make it more palatable to the public. Meanwhile the source for the claim about slavery appears to contain something closer to a full statement, from his own podcast: On his Altright.com podcast in February, Spencer lamented that the United States military never engages in war “for the right reasons,” which he said are when “you want to dominate someone, you want to take their territory, you want to take their women.” And if those reasons don’t suffice, Spencer said, he believes it is acceptable to go to war simply for “vainglory.” When one of his guests began to complain that the United States Navy sent ships to provide humanitarian aid to Haitians after a hurricane devastated the country last year, Spencer had another idea for what the military should have done. “Exactly, no. You should go enslave them. That would actually be a proper war aim,” Spencer said, before apologizing for “really going nuts” and then retracting that apology because “you need to go nuts in order to prove a point.” Spencer said he hoped white people in America get so frustrated with the military’s humanitarian efforts that they “flip over into this domineering type, and I obviously hope that happens.” “This is the kind of thing that’s truly traditional and historical. You display your power. Phallic symbols in the center of the capital city. That’s what it’s all fucking about,” Spencer said. I'm not about to get into a quote for quote debate with a green account trying to defend the integrity of a neo-nazi on the internet, though. So let's just split the difference and say he only sometimes supports slavery under certain circumstances, and in certain company.

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