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Why do you have a right to having a doctor help you? What if he doesn’t want to help you? Can the government force him to?

weard_beard 4y ago
Doctors voluntarily take an oath to that effect. No government needed. Perhaps we need a, “Hestian” oath for home builders.
Broken_Hippo 4y ago
If you don't want to treat all the sorts of people in a population, don't go into a field of public service. Period. I don't care if you don't want to help someone because you think being trans is wrong. You still have to treat them if you are working in an ER, if you are a dermatologist, if you are basically any doctor. In a few cases, you might be able to refer the person to another doctor, if it is reasonable (as readily understood by laypeople), not urgent, and you (personally) pay any additional costs the patient might incur, including lost wages if they need to take another day off work, differences in insurance cost, and travel costs. If you don't want to treat everyone, find another line of work. And yes, I think the same about other folks in public facing jobs. If you cannot help folks that are different than you, don't work retail. Don't be an accountant or lawyer the general public can hire. Policework, firefighting, and government jobs that deal with the general public would be off limits. And yes, I think the government should force you to do this. They already do this in a lesser manner, though fair housing laws and fair labour acts and things like this. No, these aren't perfect, but nothing is - an imperfect fix that improves things is better than none at all, after all.
danpalmer 4y ago
You clearly didn't read my answer. No individual is forced to help you, you don't know their situation, but you have a right to have society in general help you. Also using "he" to refer to a hypothetical doctor is somewhat exclusionary, I suggest "they" instead to be more neutral.
- DAVer98 4y ago
- Dracophoenix 4y ago
  Society is composed of individuals. There is no such thing as societal help sans individual help. You also forget, that society has rarely been consistent in who deserves help and on what terms.

weard_beard 4y ago

Doctors voluntarily take an oath to that effect. No government needed. Perhaps we need a, “Hestian” oath for home builders.

Broken_Hippo 4y ago

If you don't want to treat all the sorts of people in a population, don't go into a field of public service. Period. I don't care if you don't want to help someone because you think being trans is wrong. You still have to treat them if you are working in an ER, if you are a dermatologist, if you are basically any doctor. In a few cases, you might be able to refer the person to another doctor, if it is reasonable (as readily understood by laypeople), not urgent, and you (personally) pay any additional costs the patient might incur, including lost wages if they need to take another day off work, differences in insurance cost, and travel costs. If you don't want to treat everyone, find another line of work. And yes, I think the same about other folks in public facing jobs. If you cannot help folks that are different than you, don't work retail. Don't be an accountant or lawyer the general public can hire. Policework, firefighting, and government jobs that deal with the general public would be off limits. And yes, I think the government should force you to do this. They already do this in a lesser manner, though fair housing laws and fair labour acts and things like this. No, these aren't perfect, but nothing is - an imperfect fix that improves things is better than none at all, after all.

danpalmer 4y ago

You clearly didn't read my answer. No individual is forced to help you, you don't know their situation, but you have a right to have society in general help you. Also using "he" to refer to a hypothetical doctor is somewhat exclusionary, I suggest "they" instead to be more neutral.

DAVer98 4y ago
Dracophoenix 4y ago
Society is composed of individuals. There is no such thing as societal help sans individual help. You also forget, that society has rarely been consistent in who deserves help and on what terms.