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Zoom's UX is horrendous. My biggest complaint is it logging me out all the damn time because I switch between laptop and desktop fairly regularly. But its windo

Zoom's UX is horrendous. My biggest complaint is it logging me out all the damn time because I switch between laptop and desktop fairly regularly. But its windowing UI also drives me nuts. Their timing and marketing was clearly excellent, but it's a shame that Teams is what's eating their portion of the pie rather than Meet.

mccorrinall 4y ago
Are you sure the logging out when switching issue isn’t a setting by your organization?
softwarebeware 4y ago
Same here. Particularly the windowing. On a dual-screen setup, Zoom controls go off to other places and do not stay where they were left. I've had multiple experiences of not being able to find the Zoom buttons while I'm on a call. Second, it drops you out of meetings sometimes while you are screen sharing, and gives you no way to know. It's sporadic on my machine whether the green highlight/frame shows up on screen sharing to indicate that the content is still being shared.
hedora 4y ago
So, your top three choices are Google (weird ties to the US state dept), Microsoft (lobbied for cloud act, acquired linkedin and github so they could join the data with mandatory windows and office telemetry) and an independent company with weird ties to the Chinese govt. Do you really have a strong opinion about which one is the least bad choice?
- JadeNB 4y ago
  > So, your top three choices are Google (weird ties to the US state dept), Microsoft (lobbied for cloud act, acquired linkedin and github so they could join the data with mandatory windows and office telemetry) and an independent company with weird ties to the Chinese govt. > Do you really have a strong opinion about which one is the least bad choice? I suspect that, if you're in the US or China already (which, just to say it explicitly, I recognize does not apply to everyone on HN), then you perceive a meaningful difference in whether any improper use of data will expose that data to the US, or to the Chinese, government. Even if your personal threat assessment finds no difference in those risks, then you probably at least have a strong opinion whether it's better to have your data improperly exposed to a government of whatever country, or to a private corporation.
- edgyquant 4y ago
  Nope but the last one is obviously the most bad choice.
  - geraldyo 4y ago
    How so?
- smallerfish 4y ago
  > Do you really have a strong opinion about which one is the least bad choice? Yes, the one without a desktop install is clearly the best solution.
- upwardbound 4y ago
  What's wrong with the State Dept? They work on peace and diplomacy. They are probably one of the best branches of government as their job is to build international trust and cooperation and avoid wars. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_State https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_St...
dev_tty01 4y ago
Teams is full of weird bugs and strange UI, but it is the only conferencing app I've used that seamlessly transitions between devices during a meeting.

mccorrinall 4y ago

Are you sure the logging out when switching issue isn’t a setting by your organization?

softwarebeware 4y ago

Same here. Particularly the windowing. On a dual-screen setup, Zoom controls go off to other places and do not stay where they were left. I've had multiple experiences of not being able to find the Zoom buttons while I'm on a call. Second, it drops you out of meetings sometimes while you are screen sharing, and gives you no way to know. It's sporadic on my machine whether the green highlight/frame shows up on screen sharing to indicate that the content is still being shared.

hedora 4y ago

So, your top three choices are Google (weird ties to the US state dept), Microsoft (lobbied for cloud act, acquired linkedin and github so they could join the data with mandatory windows and office telemetry) and an independent company with weird ties to the Chinese govt. Do you really have a strong opinion about which one is the least bad choice?

JadeNB 4y ago
> So, your top three choices are Google (weird ties to the US state dept), Microsoft (lobbied for cloud act, acquired linkedin and github so they could join the data with mandatory windows and office telemetry) and an independent company with weird ties to the Chinese govt. > Do you really have a strong opinion about which one is the least bad choice? I suspect that, if you're in the US or China already (which, just to say it explicitly, I recognize does not apply to everyone on HN), then you perceive a meaningful difference in whether any improper use of data will expose that data to the US, or to the Chinese, government. Even if your personal threat assessment finds no difference in those risks, then you probably at least have a strong opinion whether it's better to have your data improperly exposed to a government of whatever country, or to a private corporation.
edgyquant 4y ago
Nope but the last one is obviously the most bad choice.
- geraldyo 4y ago
  How so?
smallerfish 4y ago
> Do you really have a strong opinion about which one is the least bad choice? Yes, the one without a desktop install is clearly the best solution.
upwardbound 4y ago
What's wrong with the State Dept? They work on peace and diplomacy. They are probably one of the best branches of government as their job is to build international trust and cooperation and avoid wars. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_State https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_St...

dev_tty01 4y ago

Teams is full of weird bugs and strange UI, but it is the only conferencing app I've used that seamlessly transitions between devices during a meeting.